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Why did the ps4 sell out before Black Friday?

Underestimated demand, me... 15 24.59%
 
Wild card, 199 price caus... 46 75.41%
 
Total:61
Kerotan said:
Ps4 + bundled game will sell like hotcakes in 2018. With an awesome line up of exclusives and third parties in the pipeline they should be able to sell around 130m.

Yes, its very interesting and 2018 is the heaven for the player = )



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Miyamotoo said:
jlauro said:

It is the office price from Sony for a week (November 19 to November 27, 2017).  It is not just a Black Friday deal from a retailer, but official Sony price for a week.  I have seen this price in stores that are not major retailers for electronics, such as JC Penny (manly clothes), etc...

I think you need to make clear difference between official price and current Black Friday deal (even when comes from Sony), this is just temporary Black Friday deal it want be official price. But yeah, we can say that is official price for Black Friday. :)

DonFerrari said:

Because he is a economy specialist so he is analyzing price elasticity. Also know in VGC land as moving goal post.

It is the official price point to this week and may be the official one for the next year or for another deal on Xmas. Still, case in point, discussion is about BF, it's clear on OP so your jabs are pointless here... weren't you the one that sweared that you didn't play down Sony and PS4?

For unreasonable person like you every person is economy specialist. ;)

Its temporary deal for Black Friday, but yes, we can say that's official price for one model for one week also. And that's a point, it wasn't clear in OP, and actually some people thought that PS4 is generaly sold out in any case (not just for $199 price point). And I already wrote,  headline of this thread is fixed and now is more accurate. First I never swear, and second how in this case exactly I downplay Sony and PS4!?

Yes, a lot of people will see how reasonable is to have over 1 quarter of stock on the factory.

So you don't know where this impression of you downplaying Sony comes from??? So you are at a worse situation that we thought.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

I think you need to make clear difference between official price and current Black Friday deal (even when comes from Sony), this is just temporary Black Friday deal it want be official price. But yeah, we can say that is official price for Black Friday. :)

For unreasonable person like you every person is economy specialist. ;)

Its temporary deal for Black Friday, but yes, we can say that's official price for one model for one week also. And that's a point, it wasn't clear in OP, and actually some people thought that PS4 is generaly sold out in any case (not just for $199 price point). And I already wrote,  headline of this thread is fixed and now is more accurate. First I never swear, and second how in this case exactly I downplay Sony and PS4!?

Yes, a lot of people will see how reasonable is to have over 1 quarter of stock on the factory.

So you don't know where this impression of you downplaying Sony comes from??? So you are at a worse situation that we thought.

Reasonable people will consider possible multiply different reasons why Nintendo could aim to manufacture more units than they can maybe ship, especially when we talk theoretically for things that are not set in stones. You are clearly not reasonable person.

Talking is cheap, give me clear facts where I downplay Sony and PS4.



Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes, a lot of people will see how reasonable is to have over 1 quarter of stock on the factory.

So you don't know where this impression of you downplaying Sony comes from??? So you are at a worse situation that we thought.

Reasonable people will consider possible multiply different reasons why Nintendo could aim to manufacture more units than they can maybe ship, especially when we talk theoretically for things that are not set in stones. You are clearly not reasonable person.

Talking is cheap, give me clear facts where I downplay Sony and PS4.

The question isn't that nintendo could plan to manufacture more than they will ship, that point is acceptable. The point that is ridiculous is having 5M in stock, plus 3M on shipping channels, all to arrive on the lower selling quarter.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Reasonable people will consider possible multiply different reasons why Nintendo could aim to manufacture more units than they can maybe ship, especially when we talk theoretically for things that are not set in stones. You are clearly not reasonable person.

Talking is cheap, give me clear facts where I downplay Sony and PS4.

The question isn't that nintendo could plan to manufacture more than they will ship, that point is acceptable. The point that is ridiculous is having 5M in stock, plus 3M on shipping channels, all to arrive on the lower selling quarter.

We going in circles so for last time, I gave you couple of times reasinble reasons why even 5m maybe could be possible (maybe they have information that there will again be shortages of Switch parts on market, maybe they got some great deals for some Switch parts, maybe they are not still sure how much they can sell so maybe they think its better to have more units available than to have again stock problems..). And again its not like they would produce those 5m in one day and than conserve them for next FY, they could start producing couple of hundred thousand more units per month and then depanding from sales and demand on market, to speed up or slow down production.

So all this is big maybe, nothing is certain or set in stone, but those are one of posibilites.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 27 November 2017

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Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

The question isn't that nintendo could plan to manufacture more than they will ship, that point is acceptable. The point that is ridiculous is having 5M in stock, plus 3M on shipping channels, all to arrive on the lower selling quarter.

We going in circles so for last time, I gave you couple of times reasinble reasons why even 5m maybe could be possible (maybe they have information that there will again be shortages of Switch parts on market, maybe they got some great deals for some Switch parts, maybe they are not still sure how much they can sell so maybe they think its better to have more units available than to have again stock problems..). And again its not like they would produce those 5m in one day and than conserve them for next FY, they could start producing couple of hundred thousand more units per month and then depanding from sales and demand on market, to speed up or slow down production.

So all this is big maybe, nothing is certain or set in stone, but those are one of posibilites.

It doesn't matter if it was made slowly over every single month to add up to 5M or on the last quarter they bumped a lot... the point is overstuffing their inventory by what would be more than 1 quarter of sales (and still producing normally, plus what was on channel) would mean like 1 semester of 1.5B of inventory sitting around. That makes no sense but you are right, besides being off-topic it will go circle, and you know you won't ever find evidence of any console maker to make so much over their estimate sales.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Smartie900 said:
OdinHades said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNQcdThO4ZA

23 PS3s are better.

https://youtu.be/ndU_TV4bX28



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Sony had its biggest Black Friday in PlayStation History in the U.S.

"We sold more consoles than we ever have in our 22 year history." - PlayStation America.



d21lewis said:
Smartie900 said:

23 PS3s are better.

https://youtu.be/ndU_TV4bX28

Why god, why??? Snaaaaake



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

So PlayStation 4 for sure pushed past 2 million then?



 

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