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Kerozinn said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Yep. Stereoscopic 3D improves graphics way better than 4K, or 60 FPS. Playing a game in 3D vs no 3D is about as big a difference as playing in color vs playing in black and white. Having a natural view, and sound immersion as opposed to looking through a screen, with speakers is a huge difference too. Granted, not all games can be improved by this. Just the ones that use a First Person perspective. But the differences in immersion are huge.

it doesnt improve graphics at all. just your perception. and no 60fps is way more important than 4k or 3D

Part of VR is that it's at least 90fps. 60 is really too low for VR. Besides stereoscopy, Virtual Reality also sports a very high FoVThose are all very important things in gaming graphics. So yes, VR improves graphics better than 4K or 60fps (imho).

If you're up to wearing a VR headset of course (and splashing down the money for for it). Personally I think VR is a real game changer, and I dearly hope that it will become more mean stream.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
How can VR make bad games good? I don't believe it !

You'd be surprised. A lot of simple ideas take on a whole new life in VR. A game like Skyrim, I imagine can be very immersive.



d21lewis said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
How can VR make bad games good? I don't believe it!

You'd be surprised. A lot of simple ideas take on a whole new life in VR. A game like Skyrim, I imagine can be very immersive.

VR is a dumb gimmick that has been around longer than half the people on this forum have been alive. Skyrim is an awful game no matter what.



SegataSanshiro said:
d21lewis said:

You'd be surprised. A lot of simple ideas take on a whole new life in VR. A game like Skyrim, I imagine can be very immersive.

VR is a dumb gimmick that has been around longer than half the people on this forum have been alive. Skyrim is an awful game no matter what.

That's what we call "an opinion" and a hyperbolic one, at that. I'm not going to debate you. I didn't even want Skyrim until recently and I didn't even get it for the PSVR. You don't like it and that's cool.



chakkra said:
Vodacixi said:

Not a chance. I like to be able to see, feel and hear what happens around me while I play videogames. Yeah, it may sound a bit paradoxical that I want all of that with me being essentially in a "different world" (the videogame)... but that's how I like it. It's part of the reason why I don't use headphones to play unless it's absolutely necessary (rhythm games and such).

Also, I don't think it's healthy to put a screen so close to your eyes. Not for a long time at least...

Hmmm...  Interesting...   I'm no psychologist but I would dare to suggest that you might suffer from some sort of claustrophobia.  Have you ever had any claustrophobic incident?

Nah, it's just that I want to know what happens around me. That's all xD I'm totally fine with being in a closed areas.



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d21lewis said:
SegataSanshiro said:

VR is a dumb gimmick that has been around longer than half the people on this forum have been alive. Skyrim is an awful game no matter what.

That's what we call "an opinion" and a hyperbolic one, at that. I'm not going to debate you. I didn't even want Skyrim until recently and I didn't even get it for the PSVR. You don't like it and that's cool.

Ah, Hyperbole the internets favorite word to try and put someone down. Not working. VR is a dumb gimmick. It's been around since the 80s. Remember VR Cafes? I do. Skyrim is bad. That's just a fact. It's badly made for an actual RPG.



d21lewis said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
How can VR make bad games good? I don't believe it !

You'd be surprised. A lot of simple ideas take on a whole new life in VR. A game like Skyrim, I imagine can be very immersive.

I guess that's true In fact to be honest, oddly enough I've been thinking about getting Skyrim on my Switch, even though I have it on PC already. I don't know why .... it's not even for it's portability I think ... just want to see the remaster on my TV xD



VGPolyglot said:

I wouldn't say the way, more like a way, since the traditional way still has its benefits and advantages. And if Elder Scrolls VI is VR-exclusive, that's going to cut a huge number of people out.

You can play it using the DS4, and it is exactly 1 for 1 the traditional version, with the addition of not having your head locked in a vise with blinders on. There is no better way to play Bethesda's version of the game. I will give you the lack of mods though. Hopefully they will come sometime.

I think that developers and publishers will look to push the industry to greener pastures in the future. VR may have the smaller userbase now, but once stuff like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, and The Elder Scrolls make the leap, it will grow far beyond the userbases we have seen in traditional gaming. 

d21lewis said:
I never wanted Skyrim until recently. Then, suddenly I was torn between whether I wanted it for PSVR or Switch. I'm a huge fan of VR but the draw of having it with me wherever I went was too much to pass up. I couldn't see myself putting in hundreds of hours in VR despite being a fan of the format.

Had the same options, but I choose to go with PSVR. I feel I had the option to have the portable Skyrim expereince for the last year, via remote play on the Vita, and it didn't really draw me in. Being able to play in VR is just too big of a leap over any other version for me. Playing around with it makes me wish Horizon was in VR. Feels so restricted playing The Frozen Wilds now.

Vodacixi said:
And yet... as long as I breath I will never put on one of those VR headsets to play a videogame.

You will be missing out on an expereince that is far and beyond anything you have ever done or ever will do on a traditional display. I read that you like knowing what is going on around you. Would it be possible for you to try once AR/VR headsets arrive? It would be possible for them to quickly show you a live fed of what is going on outside, and headphones have the ability to do the same already.

SegataSanshiro said:
Skyrim is one of the worst RPGs I ever played. Worse than Beyond the Beyond. VR is also one of the dumbest things I have ever used. From recent VR to the VR I tried in the mid-90s. All I can think of is some people should play far more games and systems.

I have been gaming for nearly 30 years. I have had, or had access to every console since 1989 via either owning them, or someone else living with me having them. I have all of the current platforms in my home right now, and we don't skimp on game purchases, honestly we have more games than we really should. In the last year VR has recaptured a love for gaming that I have not felt since I got my PS1 and N64 in the same year. It has also cast a light on just how limited games on traditional displays and controls have become.

I have played VR almost exclusively from April - September, and jumping back into retro games with COD:WW2, Wolfenstien, Mario Odyssey, and The Frozen Wilds, it is jarring to say the least. It is incredible how helpless and limited the expereince is after you have had your head and hands freed from the shackles.

Cerebralbore101 said:
Yep. Stereoscopic 3D improves graphics way better than 4K, or 60 FPS. Playing a game in 3D vs no 3D is about as big a difference as playing in color vs playing in black and white. Having a natural view, and sound immersion as opposed to looking through a screen, with speakers is a huge difference too. Granted, not all games can be improved by this. Just the ones that use a First Person perspective. But the differences in immersion are huge.

Going from head in a vise 2D 4K/30 - 60fps to Full Freedom 3D 2K/60 - 120fps is an incredible leap. You are right, it is like going from Black and White SD to Color and HD in one single jump. It blows you away when you jump into an X-Wing or a Dodge Viper. It removes the shackles when you play a game like Farpoint or Arizona Sunshine. It is an actual expereince. 

Give  it a couple of months, and returing to a traditional display will really change your perspective on things. Even with a 75" 4K screen it is a rough transition back out of that free and beautiful world.



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Tried PSVR. Felt like the same crap as 20 years ago just better graphics. In fact felt like Wii games. 1989 is still quite a bit after I began playing games.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
How can VR make bad games good? I don't believe it !

Nobody says that. But it could make good games better.



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