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flashfire926 on 08 November 2017
celador said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Okay maybe I am lost.....but why are people saying the PS4 is doing bad right now? Like how is it doing bad? 

Because their console of choice is going to lose this gen by over 50,000,000 units so they take what they can. It's like I said earlier, this reminds me of when MS dropped Kinect and when MS did deep price cuts and won the holiday season in the US in 2014. We just had Sony's financials for Q2 and they are up YoY and increased projections for the year to 19m, double what Xbox One has done in any year. But PS4 is doing bad. And Xbox is doing great because they are getting good numbers all of a sudden, ignoring how poor their sales have been for the last ten months

Then Sony will announce over 70m consoles sold in January, while MS won't say anything about their total sales because they've been destroyed. People get tunnel vision to suit their needs

wow, just chill it man, all people are saying is that PS4 has a good chance of ending third place in November here, (which I disagree with, since I think it will outsell the Switch) and they need to step up on price cuts, temporary or permanent.

Why cant you stand people congratulating Xbox for a good launch for X? Jesus.

No one is saying that they are doing bad, except one or two trolls.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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celador on 08 November 2017
flashfire926 said: 

Why cant you stand people congratulating Xbox for a good launch for X? Jesus.

 

i only addressed the issue of people saying the PS4 was selling bad



flashfire926 on 08 November 2017
celador said:
flashfire926 said: 

Why cant you stand people congratulating Xbox for a good launch for X? Jesus.

 

i only addressed the issue of people saying the PS4 was selling bad

Shouldnt take them too seriously, theyre just trolls.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

Jranation on 08 November 2017
hudsoniscool said:
jason1637 said:
7 consoles ahead of the first PS4 console. I think Sony should do a pre black friday deal.

Lol stop trolling bro. I hate being trolled by others and stuff like this is just ammo for 'retaliation'.

I think you need to check what trolling is. Everything he said before that full stop is FACTS 

 

And yeah. XBOX is DOMINATING AMAZON! 



Pocky Lover Boy! 

bluedawgs on 08 November 2017
PAOerfulone said:
maxleresistant said:

Because the switch will not be enough to keep up with the income generated by two systems.

I never sad they need to make two widely different devices like the 3DS and the WiiU.

An iphone and ipad are still two different devices. Get it?

 

bluedawgs said:

 

You both are free to think that but PS4 will likely sell over 1.5 million units in the US in November due to $199 black friday deals and a Call of Duty that is equally as strong as Black Ops 3. Not even taking into account that Star Wars is also releasing this month. You both can tell me why you believe its impossible that the PS4 can win if you want

Nintendo: The Switch is the most desired item on the market right now and is riding high off of Super Mario Odyssey to start November after winning October by a considerable margin. So right off the bat, Sony is playing catch up to the Switch, and even the CoD bundle, at its peak position, reach #20, while the Switch always had at least one bundle within the top 20, if not both. So, the PS4's chances of beating Switch in November are slim. Even with Black Friday being taken into account and who is to say Nintendo won't announce some sort of deal for Black Friday themselves?

Microsoft: Every time the Xbox One X was available for pre order, it shot up to the top of the charts, something it was constantly doing since August. Plus, all of its other Slim models ranking ahead of PS4 right now. 

As it stands, Black Friday may not be enough. History also has something to say about that too. Since launch, the PS4 and Xbox One have had 4 Black Fridays , and the Xbox One has won 3 of them. And the one that Sony did win, the year they had Black Ops 3 and Battlefront 1 (and Fallout 4), it was by a very narrow margin. 
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/42337/USA/

The PS4 could

Thing is I don't put much stock in amazon in regards to holiday sales. However, all your points are solid and there's not much to disagree with. Should be a really fun NPD thread this year.

flashfire926 said:
PAOerfulone said:

 

Nintendo: The Switch is the most desired item on the market right now and is riding high off of Super Mario Odyssey to start November after winning October by a considerable margin. So right off the bat, Sony is playing catch up to the Switch, and even the CoD bundle, at its peak position, reach #20, while the Switch always had at least one bundle within the top 20, if not both. So, the PS4's chances of beating Switch in November are slim. Even with Black Friday being taken into account and who is to say Nintendo won't announce some sort of deal for Black Friday themselves?

Microsoft: Every time the Xbox One X was available for pre order, it shot up to the top of the charts, something it was constantly doing since August. Plus, all of its other Slim models ranking ahead of PS4 right now. 

As it stands, Black Friday may not be enough. History also has something to say about that too. Since launch, the PS4 and Xbox One have had 4 Black Fridays, and the Xbox One has won 3 of them. And the one that Sony did win, the year they had Black Ops 3 and Battlefront 1 (and Fallout 4), it was by a very narrow margin. 
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/42337/USA/

The PS4 could

Great post, but you shouldn't waste time talking to BlueDawgs.

I don't know why you're asserting that it's a waste of time talking to me because unless i'm responding to idiotic posts i usually keep it civil, but at least I actually talk sales rather than inserting myself into other peoples conversations to throw shade at other users for no reason.



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flashfire926 on 08 November 2017
bluedawgs said:
PAOerfulone said:

 

Nintendo: The Switch is the most desired item on the market right now and is riding high off of Super Mario Odyssey to start November after winning October by a considerable margin. So right off the bat, Sony is playing catch up to the Switch, and even the CoD bundle, at its peak position, reach #20, while the Switch always had at least one bundle within the top 20, if not both. So, the PS4's chances of beating Switch in November are slim. Even with Black Friday being taken into account and who is to say Nintendo won't announce some sort of deal for Black Friday themselves?

Microsoft: Every time the Xbox One X was available for pre order, it shot up to the top of the charts, something it was constantly doing since August. Plus, all of its other Slim models ranking ahead of PS4 right now. 

As it stands, Black Friday may not be enough. History also has something to say about that too. Since launch, the PS4 and Xbox One have had 4 Black Fridays , and the Xbox One has won 3 of them. And the one that Sony did win, the year they had Black Ops 3 and Battlefront 1 (and Fallout 4), it was by a very narrow margin. 
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/42337/USA/

The PS4 could

Thing is I don't put much stock in amazon in regards to holiday sales. However, all your points are solid and there's not much to disagree with. Should be a really fun NPD thread this year.

flashfire926 said:

Great post, but you shouldn't waste time talking to BlueDawgs.

I don't know why you're asserting that it's a waste of time talking to me because unless i'm responding to idiotic posts i usually keep it civil, but at least I actually talk sales rather than inserting myself into other peoples conversations to throw shade at other users for no reason.

Bro, I'm not the one who got banned for a month for calling multiple people fanboys and calling me drunk/on drugs. Thats much worse than throwing rather derserved shade.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

97metascore on 08 November 2017

Wow! XBX is still dominating



bluedawgs on 08 November 2017
flashfire926 said:
bluedawgs said:

Thing is I don't put much stock in amazon in regards to holiday sales. However, all your points are solid and there's not much to disagree with. Should be a really fun NPD thread this year.

I don't know why you're asserting that it's a waste of time talking to me because unless i'm responding to idiotic posts i usually keep it civil, but at least I actually talk sales rather than inserting myself into other peoples conversations to throw shade at other users for no reason.

Bro, I'm not the one who got banned for a month for calling multiple people fanboys and calling me drunk/on drugs. Thats much worse than throwing rather derserved 

So cus i asked if you were drunk or high one month ago it's now a waste of time talking to me? Very interesting



p0isonparadise on 08 November 2017

4 hours since last update.

HARDWARE:
#02 XB1X Scorpio (same)
#11 NS Grey (same)
#20 XB1X (down 2)
#22 NS Neon (up 1)
#32 SNES Classic (down 4)
#45 XB1 (up 1)
#49 XB1 Battlefield (down 2)
#56 PS4 COD (down 6)
#63 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 5)
#68 PS4 Pro (down 1)
#83 PS4 Star Wars (down 6)
#87 N2DSXL (down 7)
#92 N3DSXL SNES (down 4)

SOFTWARE (Pre-orders Only)**:
#08 3DS Pokemon Ultra Sun (same)
#09 3DS Pokemon Ultra Moon (same)

Does not affect this month: *
Software outside of the month only gets added if it's in the top 20: **

PS4: 4 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
XB1: 4 in the top 100 / 4 in the top 50 / 2 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5
NIS:  2 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5



I LOVE GIGGS on 09 November 2017

My expectation for the rest of the month:
- Xbox X sales will slow down gradually. It will get below Xbox S.
- Switch will remain top of the charts as I think Nintendo prepared for the holidays, shipment wise.
- PS4 will gradually increase as what you expect on November. $200 PS4 will be the most attractive system in Black Friday.

Remember that Black Friday day represents something around 50% of the total sales for the month. PS4 at $200 will be the best selling system during this day followed by the Switch and then Xbox S.

1. Switch >1.7m
2. PS4 1.5-1.6m
3. Xbox One 1.2-1.4m

 

Regardless of which system ends up the best selling at the end of the month, it will be the best holiday period in tge last five years.