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Forums - Nintendo - EA is not committed to Switch, they don't understand the Switch market yet.

DonFerrari on 02 November 2017
burninmylight said:
DonFerrari said:

If the console games on the go isn't what made PSVita fail, then it also isn't what makes the Switch succeed, period.

Switch is thriving because it is a Nintendo Handheld (yes we can call it a hybrid and that it play on TV), but most here want it for portability. So it isn't thriving because it is a console being portable.

I'm pretty sure Breath of the Wild, Splatoon and Mario Odyssey are making the Switch succeed like a mo-fo. They also happen to be console games.

Again, I don't  understand the point you're trying to make comparing the Vita to the Switch. I don't see why you should compare anything to the Switch. Because every time you try to compare them as handhelds, you're going to get reminded that the Switch is also a console in some people's eyes. Every time you try to compare it to a console, you're going to get reminded that some see it as a portable. And most people see it the way it was intended to be, a hybrid. And everyone is correct. Stop wasting your time trying to give reasons for its success with outdated notions of whether its a portable or not and recognize that it is home to some highly rated, highly anticipated games, with more to come.

You might also want to take a look at this:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=232578

I'm pretty sure the success of Switch is much more linked to the games released by Nintendo than by any other factor. That is the point, it isn't the fact that you can play console type of games on the go.

Alkibiádēs said:
DonFerrari said:

If the console games on the go isn't what made PSVita fail, then it also isn't what makes the Switch succeed, period.

Switch is thriving because it is a Nintendo Handheld (yes we can call it a hybrid and that it play on TV), but most here want it for portability. So it isn't thriving because it is a console being portable.

Compare the Switch's first year on the market with that of the Playstation Vita and you'll see why the Vita failed and the Switch didn't. 

You seem to think I don't know it have to do with the games released (same reason WiiU failed). The sole point I'm making is that people say one of the biggest reason is that it's to play console games on the go, it isn't, it is to play Nintendo games on the go, as have been the case for all Nintendo HH.



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burninmylight on 02 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
burninmylight said:

I'm pretty sure Breath of the Wild, Splatoon and Mario Odyssey are making the Switch succeed like a mo-fo. They also happen to be console games.

Again, I don't  understand the point you're trying to make comparing the Vita to the Switch. I don't see why you should compare anything to the Switch. Because every time you try to compare them as handhelds, you're going to get reminded that the Switch is also a console in some people's eyes. Every time you try to compare it to a console, you're going to get reminded that some see it as a portable. And most people see it the way it was intended to be, a hybrid. And everyone is correct. Stop wasting your time trying to give reasons for its success with outdated notions of whether its a portable or not and recognize that it is home to some highly rated, highly anticipated games, with more to come.

You might also want to take a look at this:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=232578

I'm pretty sure the success of Switch is much more linked to the games released by Nintendo than by any other factor. That is the point, it isn't the fact that you can play console type of games on the go.

Alkibiádēs said:

Compare the Switch's first year on the market with that of the Playstation Vita and you'll see why the Vita failed and the Switch didn't. 

You seem to think I don't know it have to do with the games released (same reason WiiU failed). The sole point I'm making is that people say one of the biggest reason is that it's to play console games on the go, it isn't, it is to play Nintendo games on the go, as have been the case for all Nintendo HH.

I guess I'm never going to understand why it's so important to you to lead this crusade on these random people on the Internet who say console games are the reason the Switch is successful, but more power to ya.



wombat123 on 02 November 2017
Podings said:
EA isn't in the business of making games for people that like video games anymore.

Just like how many movie producers really aren't in the business of making movies for people that like film as a medium.

It's more like they want to prey on people with gambling problems now.



Cloudman on 02 November 2017

I thought they said before that they were going commit to the Switch? Though I wouldn't be surprised if they backed out after the sales of FIFA, although I don't think that title was the best way to gauge interesting, especially if they were basing it off of EU sales, which looks to be one of Nintendo's weaker markets. They'd likely have to take a different approach if they want to see more success on the Switch.



 

              

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Medisti on 02 November 2017

1. Release FIFA, based on a sport mostly popular in Europe, Nintendo's weakest market, then act surprised when it doesn't sell. Don't give NA gamers anything they want or a chance to buy anything.
2. Throw up hands and declare Switch not profitable. Shrug shoulders when people point out the problems with Step 1.
3. Add in loot boxes.



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zygote on 02 November 2017

EA needs to learn some lessons.



VGPolyglot on 02 November 2017
caffeinade said:
Make good games; sell lots of games.

Is that too hard to understand?

They then unfortunately try to go with a huge, bloated budget and get all disappointed when a game can't meet their expectations! They should try going for more mid-tier experiences.



Chrizum on 03 November 2017

I don't understand why EA would develop FIFA for Switch, or any other game for that matter. I have yet to meet a Nintendo fan to embrace EA games. I myself love FIFA, but honestly, EA doesn't make games; they make products that are the opposite of Nintendo games. If EA wants to make money, they shouldn't be on Nintendo systems.



DarthMetalliCube on 03 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

What is with these guys? They are so clueless. They were way late on the NES train and weren't really much of a presence on the Wii either. Are they opposed to money or something? 

Don't understand the market? What kind of a dumbass excuse is that? They're gamers. They aren't from Mars.. Just make/publish quality freaking games. I think don't think we can resort to "teh cazualz!" excuse any longer based on the Switch's library, and the console is obviously poised to have a very large and diverse userbase, so chances are you'll get some sales regardless of WHAT you make.. I suppose I shouldn't expect such a souless corporate entity in gaming to understand a company like Nintendo and its base though. 

So are we under the impression that 3rd parties does as good on Nintendo as they do on Xbox and Playstation? Or is it that Xbox and Playstation buy games without quality?

Why should EA makes games targeting specifically Nintendo fanbase and lose the other 100M fanbase of Xbox and PS4?

Neither really.. Although it's true I'm not fond of many of these AAA style games that populate the Sony and MS console libraries, as many feel either overly convoluted and/or linear, glorified interactive movies. Not to say they aren't "quality" but many are certainly overhyped. But whatever, that's besides the point..

EA doesn't even necessarily have to make insanely good games or games that cater specifically to Nintendo's audience, or even exclusive games. Just port over some of your better games and chances are you'll get some decent returns on them judging by the strong Switch sales that doesn't look to slow anytime soon. I think Bethesda will soon prove this. 

I just find it hard to believe that many indies can seemingly figure out the Switch audience enough to flourish on the platform, or at least make decent returns, but this major publisher that's been in the game for decades cannot? 



 

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FarleyMcFirefly on 03 November 2017

I only like Mass Effect and I'm curious about Battlefront II. I do love me some Star Wars games. But fuck you EA.

I hope everybody here supports other third party titles on Switch. I don't want to see others follow suit.



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