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LurkerJ on 22 October 2017
RolStoppable said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Whether he responded to it correctly or not is not an indication of anything other than he made the wrong call. It's NOT proof of guilt. You are just a user on VGC, GAF is a huge site. Just 'think' how would you handle it? More threads are being created, you're trying to think of a way of explaining something with NO proof because it didn't happen (just for the sake of this post), Twitter and Facebook are spreading it everywhere and you have already been deemed 'guilty'. I think I'd panic in that situation too.

Just for one moment sit back and consider this from a neutral position. Just look at the facts (I can't find any) we have at the moment and don't draw conclusions based on accusations. 

There have been multiple threads on this website where users have wrongfully accused me of something. My stance has always been to keep the threads open instead of running to the mod team and asking for a lock. If you aren't guilty, what do you have to lose?

We do have facts in this case. Evilore instructed his mod team to cover up for him and censor all discussion about the topic, including bans for people who dared to bring it up. This cannot be ignored from a neutral position.

Didn't he do that for a lot of other topics? For example, the mere mention of VGC there grants you a ban. I also would understand why didn't he want the topic to be discussed at all even if he was innocent.

Are you familiar with Kesha and Dr Luke (her music producer)?

She's a trashy pop singer who buried her music producer's career and turned his life into a living hell. Everyone sided with her, even though her allegations were never proven right and she has lost every battle in court so far. Not only that, but as the case went on, evidence emerged that she did hit on the guy numerous times and she had to change the premise of her entire case against him.

Non of that mattered in the end, she's still viewed as the victim and Dr Luke is the sleazy bastard, despite never being proven guilty. She ruined his life completely and all it took was making headlines by crying in public. She released an album lately and her shit was celebrated with no regard to the fact that she obviously used the "rape" card to get out of her contract. Imagine how Dr Luke felt, when all of his kids got to hear from the media, was that their father is a rapist, and not the whole truth.

Anyway, I am not invested and I am not defending the neogaf headmod, or whatever his position there is. All I am trying to say is that in this day and age you can be labelled as "x" just because a bunch of overly sensitive bloggers decided to smear you, and if I was evilore, I'd probably freak out seeing my name attached to such a scandalous story, even if that story never happened in the first place.



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o_O.Q on 22 October 2017
Paul said:
Hiku said:

If you feel you're getting mixed signals from someone, you use your words to try to clarify.
What you don't do is barge into their room and hop into their shower butt naked. Don't defend that kind of behaviour. That sounds like some Weinstein shit.

And if he used his authority to try to censor discussion about his behaviour, then that at the very least makes him look more guilty.

Either way, I didn't know much about how the mods behaved over there. But from what Aqua said in regards to how they handled Aqua's account and NPD George, they don't sound like the most reasonable people on earth.

Words first, cock out second, while seemingly quite simple, a concept some here seem to be struggling with.

what conversation did they have before hand? i haven't been able to find their conversation anywhere



LurkerJ on 22 October 2017
Paul said:
Hiku said:

If you feel you're getting mixed signals from someone, you use your words to try to clarify.
What you don't do is barge into their room and hop into their shower butt naked. Don't defend that kind of behaviour. That sounds like some Weinstein shit.

And if he used his authority to try to censor discussion about his behaviour, then that at the very least makes him look more guilty.

Either way, I didn't know much about how the mods behaved over there. But from what Aqua said in regards to how they handled Aqua's account and NPD George, they don't sound like the most reasonable people on earth.

Words first, cock out second, while seemingly quite simple, a concept some here seem to be struggling with.

You seem to lack some reading comprehension skills as well. Many of us want to hear the other side before we hand out "guilty" stamps. Yet, somehow, we're the crazy ones for daring to demand more information. 



Flilix on 22 October 2017

That title



VGPolyglot on 22 October 2017
Flilix said:

That title

I go in and the first comment I see is from Sargon



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StarOcean on 22 October 2017
monocle_layton said:
Lawlight said:

Why do you always feel targeted in these types of threads? I've always said that vocal male feminists are dodgy and now it's coming to light that, yeah, they are. I think Julian Assange has put it nicely:

I feel annoyed by how often you assume the worst out of people and create rather questionable generalizations. Just because some vocal male feminists are pieces of garbage, doesn't mean the majority are secret rapists.

VGPolyglot said:

Ah, somehow men caring about women, and wanting them to be treated with respect is somehow twisted into us just wanting to take advantage of them. Yes, we're obviously not perfecct (I am embarrassed with the amount of porn I watch), but I don't commit sexual assault.

It's truly ridiculous to think anyone who is a vocal male feminist is just seeking to take advantage. How anyone generates these concepts is beyond me.

They think the gov is turning frogs gay and Michelle Obama is a dude. Of course their conspiracy loving asses are going to think anyone showing human decency is taking advantage of someone else. Let them drink, in gallons, the cum of their lord and savior, Alex Jones. 



JWeinCom on 22 October 2017
LurkerJ said:
Paul said:

Words first, cock out second, while seemingly quite simple, a concept some here seem to be struggling with.

You seem to lack some reading comprehension skills as well. Many of us want to hear the other side before we hand out "guilty" stamps. Yet, somehow, we're the crazy ones for daring to demand more information. 

No, because quite a few people are saying that even if the story went exactly as she said, what he did was still just a minor misunderstanding.



UltimateGamer1982 on 22 October 2017

I’ll miss mat Piscatella from npd. He had very valuable sales data to share and industry insights as well as abdiel from Best Buy. Hope they find a home here. Mat even made a recent YouTube video. Very insightful.



GribbleGrunger on 22 October 2017

Yep, this is why I never went into GAF threads on subjects like this. I'm out. Enjoy your witch hunts. Who knows, perhaps you're right and he is guilty. Meanwhile in sensible land, I'll consider both sides of the story and not draw conclusions or attribute blame to either party. Enjoy.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Wyrdness on 22 October 2017

LOL just watched a video where they said two years ago he turned down $10m to sell the site I bet he's kicking himself now along with everyone else kicking him.