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Pavolink said:
TallSilhouette said:

Like everything I just quoted. A few indies (out of hundreds released this year) become successful on Switch and suddenly it's the best place for indie games, where all/most of said games RUN as well or better, the library has/will have more good ones than anywhere else, and there's no reason to buy an indie game on any other platform. It's absurd.

And what kind of analysis do you believe Nintendo fans should make with the succesful stories posted by devs and the amount of new content announced frequently?

What conclusion should be reached with that? Or must fans should be quiet about it?

Maybe this kind of nonsense will be avoided if in first place people warned devs to not believe in their success, let alone post it to let anyone know about it.

That some indies are seeing success on Switch and the console is on a good path. That's it. It's absolutely fine to express approval and interest, not to talk out of your ass.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
StarOcean said:

If you're going to make a point with me in it, get it right. I'd prefer they didn't do well, doesn't mean I don't want them to succeed. You even misquoted me, on purpose.

Misquoted you on purpose? You're just going to throw accusations around because you don't have any ground to stand on? You just automatically went to "He misquoted me... on purpose!" Maybe I just i don't know ... paraphrased what you said because I didn't want to go pages back?

Here's what you said : 

"And this is why I dont like when Nintendo does well. Any moderate success is instantly turned into some massive hyperbole like this threads premise"

Soooooo much better amirite? I mean honestly, if I presented a fallacy or misconstrued what you said I could understand why you'd think I "purposely" misquoted you. But it's pretty much exactly what you said. Stop with semantics.

"I'd prefer they didn't do well, doesn't mean I don't want them to succeed. "

This doesn't even make sense.

Not wanting Nintendo to do well because you don't like forum users attitudes is honestly pathetic. 

It was not what I said, so you misquoted me. Then you used that misquote to make a point that only works if the misquote was the correct quote, which it was not. Which made it a misquote. So either you forgot what I said or are trying to mislead others. So pick which scenario is true.

And Nintendo can succeed without doing amzing. Case and point the N64, Gamecube, Wii U. 



TallSilhouette said:
Green098 said:
As a system to play them on yes. It's like a handheld and home console game in one. There is almost no reason in most cases to buy indie games on another platform when you get the exact same experience with the added portable functionality. (Especially since a lot of indie games don't heavily drain your battery)

Is this what we have to look forward to this generation?

StarOcean said:
And this is why I dont like when Nintendo does well. Any moderate success is instantly turned into some massive hyperbole like this threads premise

No kidding...

Please try and make a good argument against my statement instead please. Infact I'll do it for you since I find it fun to discuss all kinds of stuff.

There are benefits over Switch when it comes to buying indie games on steam for example; you can have all your games in the one place and can play them on pc windows device. Some other platforms may have better exclusive indie games to certain people or such as if you love VR indie games which would be impossible on Switch. Maybe with Xbox and Playstation's subscription service you can get free indie games every month which could be seen as a better place for playing indies due to value.

I mean I didn't say in all cases, if you can't get the game for any better value, content, graphics, controls, etc, elsewhere Switch is the best platform for them due to portability in my opinion.



I expect the Switch's indie support to increase as time goes on. Good news for me as I prefer indie games on my Switch 99% of the time. The other 1% is stuff like Minecraft but even an inferior version of it on the Switch is good enough for me to get.

Now if only they will port some old indie games on the Switch more often.



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StarOcean said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Misquoted you on purpose? You're just going to throw accusations around because you don't have any ground to stand on? You just automatically went to "He misquoted me... on purpose!" Maybe I just i don't know ... paraphrased what you said because I didn't want to go pages back?

Here's what you said : 

"And this is why I dont like when Nintendo does well. Any moderate success is instantly turned into some massive hyperbole like this threads premise"

Soooooo much better amirite? I mean honestly, if I presented a fallacy or misconstrued what you said I could understand why you'd think I "purposely" misquoted you. But it's pretty much exactly what you said. Stop with semantics.

"I'd prefer they didn't do well, doesn't mean I don't want them to succeed. "

This doesn't even make sense.

Not wanting Nintendo to do well because you don't like forum users attitudes is honestly pathetic. 

It was not what I said, so you misquoted me. Then you used that misquote to make a point that only works if the misquote was the correct quote, which it was not. Which made it a misquote. So either you forgot what I said or are trying to mislead others. So pick which scenario is true.

And Nintendo can succeed without doing amzing. Case and point the N64, Gamecube, Wii U. 

No, IT DOES WORK. 

IN FACT, MY MISQUOTE IS ALMOST THE EXACT THING YOU SAID

Here's my "misquote" : Again, this is bad logic. I mean in the case of Star Ocean, he literally said "This is why I don't like it when Nintendo succeeds" ... about a FORUM. Think about that. Someone doesn't want Nintendo to succeed, because of how *forum* users act when they do. Just shut off the fucking internet if peoples biases or happiness is going to affect you that much ... 

This is your quote : "And this is why I dont like when Nintendo does well. Any moderate success is instantly turned into some massive hyperbole like this threads premise"

Not only is "does well" a synonym for "succeed", but you even make a point that moderate success turns into hype that you don't like. Well, if moderate success does that, and you obviously don't want major success, then what is there left? Minor success? That's hardly what i'd call "being successful"

Wanting Nintendo to be successful in a lesser form because of a forum is stupid. Stop reading forums if that's going to be your mindset. 

And again I mean no disrespect, it's just a dumb attitude and fanboyism isn't exclusive to a company. This attitude Nintendo fans have - will probably happen if the XB4 becomes successful. And look I can level with you and agree the attitude is cancer. I mean you can go back and see that a lot of Nintendo threads I'd comment "Why the fuck does this thread exist? We already know the Switch is a success." I've argued with Miyamotoo that he needs to stop playing down the handheld aspect of the Switch to hype up it's success even further. Everytime someone makes a thread like "Look how wrong your predictions were in january hahha" I go "shut the fuck up." The arrogance of Nintendo fans at times can be annoying. Is that any different from other fanboys? No, not at all. 

Wanting Nintendo to have success that isn't decent, moderate(in your own words), or big because of fanboys? I mean, we aren't 10 year olds in the 90's. We could always just turn off the machine. I'm sure you've had this conversation before. Saying that Nintendo could just have success like the N64 is a bad example. That *is* the moderate success that led people to dicksuck the console to this day, despite selling 32:100. Gamecube and Wii U are the only examples were Nintendo wasn't at least moderately successful ... and well ... I don't think the "minor" success of those consoles was enough.

I can respect your opinion on it, just not your attitude or your exclusivity. 



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StarOcean said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yet you didn't care when the hyperboles came from other place, the one and only place to play, the console for the player, the saviour of gaming, the only right leader for the industry, the one who makes everything right, I guess after years of hyperboles one just stop seeing them. 

Mr. Moon, you and I both know that is statement is 100% incorrect. 

I'm not that sure, I'm not saying you are one of them but the hyperbole has always been there, not sure why you feel to point speciafically to Nintendo, I have heard a lot of hyperbolic shit about the all mighty Ps4 this last 4 years to the point where sometimes I don't even see it anymore because it became normal, maybe it happens the same to you. In any case I don't see how is such an hyperbole to say Switch is slowly becoming the best option for indies when its pretty obvious that flexibility is a huge plus, that the console is getting a huge number of them in very little time and people is buying them more on Switch than other consoles, is not a delusional opinion or anything like that.



LOL not even close to PS4 or PC. Even Xbox One has a better Indie support imo.



Green098 said:
TallSilhouette said:

Is this what we have to look forward to this generation?

No kidding...

Please try and make a good argument against my statement instead please. Infact I'll do it for you since I find it fun to discuss all kinds of stuff.

There are benefits over Switch when it comes to buying indie games on steam for example; you can have all your games in the one place and can play them on pc windows device. Some other platforms may have better exclusive indie games to certain people or such as if you love VR indie games which would be impossible on Switch. Maybe with Xbox and Playstation's subscription service you can get free indie games every month which could be seen as a better place for playing indies due to value.

I mean I didn't say in all cases, if you can't get the game for any better value, content, graphics, controls, etc, elsewhere Switch is the best platform for them due to portability in my opinion.

What about people who don't care about portability?



xl-klaudkil said:
Noo,there are about 500 indies on ps4 and with a still faster growing userbase then switch ww, ps4 is definitely the place to be.


Fact is,there is just not that much games to choice from.

Tss stop hating on PS4, it is probably close to 1000 indies (or even more)

Xbox one has plenty aswell

But we are not talking about quality? If not talking about quality then yeah I guess the switch with the on the go feature is the better platform.






Yeah, I agree. Its not just the portability and good sales compared to other consoles, but also little things like how the Eshop tells you the new games of the week, rather than having to dig up those games like you do on psn/xbl.

As for a piece of advice, if you make any positive Nintendo threads, dont expect it to not turn into a shitshow.
You'd be dissapointed.



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