Japan second biggest console market again

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HomokHarcos on 29 September 2017

Not surprised at all.

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StarDoor on 29 September 2017

Mnementh said:

Ruler said:

Japan

(PS4) 5,115,848+

(Wii U) 3,324,017+

(XBO) 81,225+

(Switch) 1,355,664+

=9,876,754 consoles

UK

(PS4) 4,597,122+

(XBO) 3,827,958+

(Wii U) 745,841+

(Switch) 238,294+

=9,409,215 consoles

opinions?

Wait, the difference between UK and Japan has WORSENED with the Switch? UK has sold 22,4% of japanese number of WiiUs, but only 17,% Switches. And Switches in Japan are supply constrained, while they aren't in UK. This actually blows my mind.

UK's 3DS numbers are 15.6% of Japan's, so, from that perspective, the gap has decreased.

Also, VGChartz is wildly incorrect in its UK tracking anyways, since we know that as of September Switch has sold more in 2017 than Xbox One in the UK, even though VGChartz says that Xbox One has sold 39% more as of the middle of August.

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Mnementh on 29 September 2017

RolStoppable said:

Mnementh said:

Not really, overall it is better. But this means the UK liked the WiiU more than the Switch.

Uh-huh...

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OK, this was badly said by me. The WiiU isn't more popular, but in comparison with Japan the WiiU holds more of a stand. As was said by StarDoor, it is better as for 3DS, so maybe UK sees it mostly as a handheld (or japan does).

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palou said:

Bandorr said:
Odd question but I will make sure, does that make US the first biggest?

In-fact what are the markets?
US, Japan, UK, Europe? Or is UK part of the Europe market?

He's counting the European countries as seperate countries, otherwise, mainland Europe would be well ahead of either.

Generally, UK is counted as being in the same "market" as the rest of Europe.

For homeconsoles, the order is USA - Europe - Japan

For handhelds, it's the exact opposite.

Europe has a bigger market for home consoles than the US

Europe has 300k and 400k less of respectively the Switch and the Xbox ONE... but 1.8 Million more PS4 for this year, which more than balances out what's missing in Nintendo or Microsoft sales.

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As mentioned, handhelds should really be a part of this, and that puts Japan ahead of the UK. But I think both are wrong, as the EU dwarfs the Japanese market.

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irstupid on 29 September 2017

malistix1985 said:
In my opinion we should not count Wii-U numbers

I second that.

With how switch is selling, by 2018 Japan will overtake UK probably, but regardless WIi U shoudl not be counted. It's selling like 0 in Japan. They are irrelivent to considering market of home consoles.

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palou on 29 September 2017

Bofferbrauer2 said:

palou said:

He's counting the European countries as seperate countries, otherwise, mainland Europe would be well ahead of either.

Generally, UK is counted as being in the same "market" as the rest of Europe.

For homeconsoles, the order is USA - Europe - Japan

For handhelds, it's the exact opposite.

Europe has a bigger market for home consoles than the US

Europe has 300k and 400k less of respectively the Switch and the Xbox ONE... but 1.8 Million more PS4 for this year, which more than balances out what's missing in Nintendo or Microsoft sales.

This year, because XBOX is weak. However, more home consoles have been sold in the US than in Europe, this generation. (WiiU + PS4 + XBONE: 42.5 million vs 37 million)

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palou said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Europe has a bigger market for home consoles than the US

Europe has 300k and 400k less of respectively the Switch and the Xbox ONE... but 1.8 Million more PS4 for this year, which more than balances out what's missing in Nintendo or Microsoft sales.

This year, because XBOX is weak. However, more home consoles have been sold in the US than in Europe, this generation. (WiiU + PS4 + XBONE: 42.5 million vs 37 million)

Not just because of Xbox, but especially because of PS4, too

PS4 is flat at best in the US yoy while it is thriving in europe, where record sales are being made. Last year the diffence between US and Europe in PS4 sales was 1.5 million in favor of europe, right now europe is already leading by 1.8 million, and that gap is growing fast

Also, Xbox is weak in the US, but not so much in europe, where it looks like it could be it's best there yet, even without the Xbox ONE X

One reason is that the console market shrank much faster in the US last year. There, the whole market shrank by 2.4 million compared to just half of that in Europe, brining them pretty close together. Now with the PS4 reaching new heights, which benefits Europe more than the US, it's enough to actually surpass the old leader. For how long, that's what we will see...

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