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Valdath on 27 September 2017
FloatingWaffles said:
Valdath said:

Just a question, did Nintendo bought MH exclusivity for the 3DS? i mean there wasn't any reason not to bring it to the Vita too.

I honestly don't know the answer to that. I would guess maybe though? Maybe it was a deal for like one exclusive game at first and then once they saw how well that one sold then they just kept it on 3DS? I'm just guessing though. I do remember hearing about how Nintendo helped to promote the games and such for Capcom, or something like that, so maybe that had something to do with it as well. 

If there was a deal, does that make Nintendo shady too?

If Sony actually bought exclusivity for Japan i think it was a good move, it will help to sell tons of PS4s.

If Nintendo had a deal during the 3ds and MH3/4/X era, that was probably one of the most genius and savage moves ever done, that deal almost single handedly killed their competition in the handheld market.

 

I think we are underestimating just how greedy Capcom can actually be, maybe Sony bought exclusivity, or Capcom just want PS4/Switch owners to double dip.

"oh it's not coming to the Switch? Might as well get it on PS4"

Then, 3 months later, they release MHW on the Switch too, and many buy it again for portability.

 

And them Capcom releases MHW Ultimate with G rank 6 months later instead of selling it as DLC like a normal company would do.



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Shikamo on 27 September 2017



     


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FloatingWaffles on 27 September 2017
Valdath said:
FloatingWaffles said:

I honestly don't know the answer to that. I would guess maybe though? Maybe it was a deal for like one exclusive game at first and then once they saw how well that one sold then they just kept it on 3DS? I'm just guessing though. I do remember hearing about how Nintendo helped to promote the games and such for Capcom, or something like that, so maybe that had something to do with it as well. 

If there was a deal, does that make Nintendo shady too?

If Sony actually bought exclusivity for Japan i think it was a good move, it will help to sell tons of PS4s.

If Nintendo had a deal during the 3ds and MH3/4/X era, that was probably one of the most genius and savage moves ever done, that deal almost single handedly killed their competition in the handheld market.

 

I think we are underestimating just how greedy Capcom can actually be, maybe Sony bought exclusivity, or Capcom just want PS4/Switch owners to double dip.

"oh it's not coming to the Switch? Might as well get it on PS4"

Then, 3 months later, they release MHW on the Switch too, and many buy it again for portability.

 

And them Capcom releases MHW Ultimate with G rank 6 months later instead of selling it as DLC like a normal company would do.

Well to be fair, if there was a deal between Nintendo for Monster Hunter exclusivity on 3DS, they payed for it to be full exclusive to their system only. Where as if the rumor is true, Sony just paid to keep the game off of one single platform but being fine with it on another (Xbox). That's sort of a big difference there which is why i'm saying that's shady as hell for Sony to do if it were true.

Also yeah Capcom is greedy as hell, I already mentioned that earlier in this thread as well. 

The thing is though that while maybe it would be a good move business-wise for Sony, getting Japan-exclusive Monster Hunter on PS4, for Capcom it's not a good deal because they just alienated their existing playerbase that made it what it was already and it's shitty for the fans who love the series too and played it on 3DS and now went to Switch. But of course with this being Capcom they immediately went for whoever gave money instead of thinking of a good business decision that appeased both ends. Yes they released Monster Hunter XX on Switch but only in Japan, they won't even localize it for the rest of the world yet. (Probably because if the rumor is true then they don't want that to release near when MHW does too). 



Miyamotoo on 27 September 2017
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yup, also people from Japan on Neogaf still reporting they are lotteries and that Switch is still sold out every week. With this sales last few weeks, it seems that Nintendo is shipping around 45k units per week in Japan, offcourse they will ship much more when Mario Odyssey arrives.

But the supply sitation seems at least to have easend up a bit, considering the prices on Amazon ain't as ludicrous as they where before (around 42500 Yen compared to about 50000 Yen before)

They are still around 42.000 yen from scalpers.

"Katzu also took a photo showing a reseller purchasing second hand Nintendo Switch units for 37,000 yen (USD330). A Nintendo Switch costs 32,378 yen (USD289) at retail, and the current resale price is 42,000 yen (USD375) on online auction sites such as Yahoo and Rakuten."



Valdath on 27 September 2017
FloatingWaffles said:
Valdath said:

If there was a deal, does that make Nintendo shady too?

If Sony actually bought exclusivity for Japan i think it was a good move, it will help to sell tons of PS4s.

If Nintendo had a deal during the 3ds and MH3/4/X era, that was probably one of the most genius and savage moves ever done, that deal almost single handedly killed their competition in the handheld market.

 

I think we are underestimating just how greedy Capcom can actually be, maybe Sony bought exclusivity, or Capcom just want PS4/Switch owners to double dip.

"oh it's not coming to the Switch? Might as well get it on PS4"

Then, 3 months later, they release MHW on the Switch too, and many buy it again for portability.

 

And them Capcom releases MHW Ultimate with G rank 6 months later instead of selling it as DLC like a normal company would do.

Well to be fair, if there was a deal between Nintendo for Monster Hunter exclusivity on 3DS, they payed for it to be full exclusive to their system only. Where as if the rumor is true, Sony just paid to keep the game off of one single platform but being fine with it on another (Xbox). That's sort of a big difference there which is why i'm saying that's shady as hell for Sony to do if it were true.

Also yeah Capcom is greedy as hell, I already mentioned that earlier in this thread as well. 

The thing is though that while maybe it would be a good move business-wise for Sony, getting Japan-exclusive Monster Hunter on PS4, for Capcom it's not a good deal because they just alienated their existing playerbase that made it what it was already and it's shitty for the fans who love the series too and played it on 3DS and now went to Switch. But of course with this being Capcom they immediately went for whoever gave money instead of thinking of a good business decision that appeased both ends. Yes they released Monster Hunter XX on Switch but only in Japan, they won't even localize it for the rest of the world yet. (Probably because if the rumor is true then they don't want that to release near when MHW does too). 

Well Monster Hunter fans already proved to be very royal, they jumped from PSP to 3DS with no issues, Capcom loves to shit on their fans and sales of the franchise don't seem to decrease, i doubt that when World comes out on the Switch many will actually skip it.

 

I also don't get how buying exclusivity or paying to keep a game from coming out on a different platform is worse, but i don't really care since i always own every Sony / Nintendo hardware so i don't miss any games.

 

I also happen to enjoy those exclusive deals and backstabbing, makes for great forum threads xD.



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Kerotan on 27 September 2017
RolStoppable said:
Kerotan said:

Did capcom announce their expectations? 

They don't need to, because they have stated their aspirations for the Monster Hunter series time and time again. They want to grow it, especially in the West.

The logical question is whether Monster Hunter World can offset the losses it will suffer in Japan with the gains Capcom hopes to make in the rest of the world.

It will grow their player base in the west.  A port of MHW on Switch late next year in Japan or a mh5 using world's assets will make up for any lost sales in Japan.  

 

Their goals will be achieved. 



AngryLittleAlchemist on 27 September 2017

People wanting Monster Hunter Worlds to fail makes me sad. Of course, some don't necessarily want it to fail, but it seems like most are at least eagerly speculating it.

While I do find it funny that Marvel vs. Capcom failed, it's only because the game was considered mediocre and yet it was too much for a simple Switch port. I would never want games to fail if they're genuinely great.



Soundwave on 27 September 2017

Monster Hunter V or VI (whatever they want to call it) is already in development for Switch, book it. Capcom is stupid, but they're not dumb enough to end the portable line of MH games. "World" will be the new series for PS4/XB1 home consoles.

Generally speaking though I think this series was going to see a fair sized decline this generation anyway.



AngryLittleAlchemist on 27 September 2017
Soundwave said:
Monster Hunter V or VI (whatever they want to call it) is already in development for Switch, book it. Capcom is stupid, but they're not dumb enough to end the portable line of MH games. "World" will be the new series for PS4/XB1 home consoles.

Generally speaking though I think this series was going to see a fair sized decline this generation anyway.

Why do people keep saying "Monster Hunter 5"? World IS Monster Hunter 5. It's being made by the team that made 4, and they consider it a mainline entry. People need to get over that fact. It's either a Worlds port, or a continuation of the terribly lazy side series they've been doing for mobile for a few years. Considering how terrible Generations is, the best I could hope for is a Worlds port.



routsounmanman on 27 September 2017

More tests, Capcom.



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