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Leadified on 26 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Leadified said:
Some people are too quick to demonise piracy without understanding why people pirate. Some people will always pirate because they can. But how about the people who pirate because of economic reasons or because there is no legal alternative?

Start offering regional pricing for poorer countries , offer options like the Virtual Console, PS Classics, Xbox BC and some of your pirates will become customers. Piracy is never going to go away, instead the focus should be on how to convince pirates to become customers.

So screw over people who aren't in poorer countries? Why the fuck should I have to pay more for stuff just because my country is wealthier, that doesn't mean I'm wealthier (I'm really not at all wealthy!).

How does that screw you over? Do you get screwed over because rent and food is also cheaper in poorer countries compared to where you live?



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Leadified on 26 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Leadified said:

How does that screw you over? Do you get screwed over because rent and food is also cheaper in poorer countries compared to where you live?

Yes! Tell me how I can import cheap houses and food and I will!

You could move there with something like $40,000 and then enjoy a cheap life for a little while. But then when the money runs out and you have to work there then you'll be just as poor as everyone else. It's only cheap because it's relative to you who lives in a developed country, it's not cheap for the people living there.



Aeolus451 on 26 September 2017

I don't trust that at all. Pirating of games only encourages more of it. Why would someone pay for something they got for free?



Mnementh on 26 September 2017
DonFerrari said:
Mnementh said:

I exactly bought it later because I pirated it as a kid. Because if not, I would've never learned about these games in the first place. Maybe I wouldn't have become a gamer at all. I didn't even actively ask for it, other kids at school gave me the disks and said: play this!

Except Nintendo most companies release new IPs and characters on every other gen... so tell me how you pirating Crash would generally translate to you buying UC4, because I have a very hard time believing children that pirate are very keen on following each single dev to see what is their newer output.

And you specifically isn't the norm for the industry.

I played Moneky Island, UFO, Doom 2, Indiana Jones, Duke Nukem 3D as a kid. And bought these exact games later.

 

Console is a different beast, by the time I had money the generation would've. Besides I had no games for monetary reason, why would I have a console?



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setsunatenshi on 26 September 2017
Aeolus451 said:
I don't trust that at all. Pirating of games only encourages more of it. Why would someone pay for something they got for free?

because most people actually want to support the things they really enjoy.

 

i know it's a crazy concept, but you'll have to take my word for it on this one :)



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Mnementh on 26 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Leadified said:
Some people are too quick to demonise piracy without understanding why people pirate. Some people will always pirate because they can. But how about the people who pirate because of economic reasons or because there is no legal alternative?

Start offering regional pricing for poorer countries , offer options like the Virtual Console, PS Classics, Xbox BC and some of your pirates will become customers. Piracy is never going to go away, instead the focus should be on how to convince pirates to become customers.

So screw over people who aren't in poorer countries? Why the fuck should I have to pay more for stuff just because my country is wealthier, that doesn't mean I'm wealthier (I'm really not at all wealthy!).

You already pay more for a flat or a house, food, transportation and many other things in a wealthier country.



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Aeolus451 on 26 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Aeolus451 said:
I don't trust that at all. Pirating of games only encourages more of it. Why would someone pay for something they got for free?

Because some people aren't dicks?

True but how many aren't compared to those that are? I think that there's alot of dicks out there. This situation is no different than any other kind of pirate of content.



archer9234 on 26 September 2017
setsunatenshi said:
Aeolus451 said:
I don't trust that at all. Pirating of games only encourages more of it. Why would someone pay for something they got for free?

because most people actually want to support the things they really enjoy.

 

i know it's a crazy concept, but you'll have to take my word for it on this one :)

Agreed. Here's a thing. If companies would allow people an easy and simple way for us to rip DVD's, BD's etc to a digital platform of our choosing. Like what we can do with CD's. With no DRM or some other BS you have to sign into. Physical owners would have best of both worlds. You still got the money of the consumer. But they really want the person to buy the BD, and than the digital copies. Than again on some other digital platform. Not be able to play them on this device, or that device. Without question. That's where they fail. Guess what. I dumped my Daredevil BD copy to my PC. So I can watch it with a few people over skype. They in turn all bought the S1 and 2  BD sets. Are you gonna argue I did something wrong?



Aeolus451 on 26 September 2017
setsunatenshi said:
Aeolus451 said:
I don't trust that at all. Pirating of games only encourages more of it. Why would someone pay for something they got for free?

because most people actually want to support the things they really enjoy.

 

i know it's a crazy concept, but you'll have to take my word for it on this one :)

All of the pirates say that even though the companies who produce the content lose more sales to pirating than they gain from it. 



Aeolus451 on 26 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Mnementh said:

You already pay more for a flat or a house, food, transportation and many other things in a wealthier country.

Well to be fair some of that is due to better quality, not just because it's a wealthier country. I mean, a house in a wealthy country isn't going to be made of wood and fall down if there's any strong winds or anything. Or trains aren't going to break down (as much) and you've got no possibility of falling off of them while it's going along or whatever.

So if they want to make games cheaper for poor countries, the only fair way to do it would be to either remove some content or add a load of bugs to decrease the quality!

I agree with your side of that.