Volterra_90 said:
Was that Meta Ridley from Prime? Is it the first time a 2D Metroid game makes a reference to the Prime franchise? What an epic fight nevertheless.
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I know Prime fans get offended by this but i don't think the Prime game take place in the same timeline as the 2D games.
They're spinoffs but yeah that "final boss" fight was epic though it wasn't really neccessary imho but on the other hand the Queen Metroid fight was kinda lackluster. AM2R certaintly handled that part much better.
Pemalite said:
Snoorlax said:
Remember before Rare joined Nintendo? They were good, after joining Nintendo? They became legendary, after joining Microsoft? They became shit.
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Rare isn't "shit". They still make solid games that are still actually enjoyable, I feel you just took the opportunity to attack the developer.
I mean, they are not as great as they once were mind you as allot of the people left the company... But games like Kameo, Viva Pinata and hell, even Nuts and Bolts were enjoyable. With that, your statement doesn't change the fact that RARE provided input into probably one of the best fighters of this console generation, but also doesn't get to take credit for it as they aren't the developer.
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Why would i attack them, i'm just calling them out for their mediocrity over the past 2 decades what successful game franchise they created was really only Kinect Sports and even that was a knock off of Wii Sports and it's already died off.
MTZehvor said
Snoorlax said:
Fair enough we all have our preferences however i'm sure most people remember Fusion because of it's "tell heavy" plot (and linearity) whereas pretty much nobody talks about Prime's story. One of the main reasons Metroid Dread is so desired because of the plot, we want to know how Samus' story continues so Fusion actually succeeded by ending on such a cliffhanger with is storytelling the real problem was it's forced linearity, i really don't mind linearity especially not in Fusion since it's still an awesome game but it could have used less handholding like SR.
If they fix that and continue the story Metroid Dread would be perfect.
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While people do talk about Fusion's plot, and in particular how it would jump to a Metroid Dread, it's worth noting that the part that is consistently discussed is what is shown in the game; i.e. Samus telling the Federation to go fuck itself and blowing up the BSL. From my experience, no one cares much about the part of the game that's just "told" to the player, i.e. Samus' reflections on Adam, or Adam's long, droning speeches about whatever was next up on the kill list. Additionally, the end of the game winds up being a hot point of discussion because it is a cliffhanger, and, more notably, a 15 year old cliffhanger that still has shown no signs of being resolved. It's going to be a major talking point among the fanbase just because it's been such an absurdly long time.
As for "nobody talks about Prime's story," if you were around the fanbase at the time, the cliffhanger that followed Prime 1's ending was also a major talking point until the announcement of Echoes. Prime's story isn't discussed all that consistently nowadays because, well, all the gaps are pretty much filled in. There isn't a lot left to discuss; we know the story and there aren't any major mysteries that can really be speculated on. Corruption's cliffhanger was a pretty common talking point too until Federation Force revealed that it didn't mean anything; at least, not immediately. Wait for about a year or so, and Sylux will probably become the most popular talking point as we get closer to Prime 4.
TL;DR: The type of story (Prime vs. 2D) doesn't really make a difference as to whether the story is more or less talked about; it's a matter of whether there's stuff left open for discussion/speculation. The one exception to this is something like Other M where the story is so atrociously bad it will garner discussion for years to come.
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I was around at the Prime fanbase, of course they would talk about what the sequel would be about and also the hint of that Hunter's spaceship at the end of Prime 3 gave a lot of speculation yet still, nobody really talks about the Prime games for their story because it just isn't as developed like in other games like in Zelda or even Mario.
Prime 3 tried to tell a Halo like space opera and it didn't make me care one bit about any of the characters other than Samus and Ridley. Fusion, the intro of Super and Other M makes clear why Samus is on her mission and what or who is important to her. The Prime games just start and end within their own world without making any connections to other games other than the original which barely has any story to begin with. You could say theyre just open ended and can fit anywhere depending on the player's interpretation.
Say whatever you want about Other M but, believe it or not, its thanks to Other M that Fusion got recognised for it's brilliance and the whole "canonicity" got taken more seriously even though it was controversial and "divided the fanbase" which in reality has always been a mess of community. Fusion finally found it's audience even though it's still has a lot of people in the fanbase who don't like it but compared to how despised it was, it sure took it's time to get the attention it deserved but it finally got there and the interest in the series' chronology was revived. Now im just waiting for Metroid 5.
Volterra_90 said:
I've 100% the game, and you must do it, because you unlock a pretty interesting (and really unexpected and surprising, at least for me) bit of information, that I came here to comment XD.
The 2d memory was precisely what caught me off guard. I'm not sure what we're supposed to see, but it's that a rebel Chozo faction or what? Or maybe another race which came to help the Chozo in the SR388 planet with the Metroid menace and afterwards they rebel agains the Chozo? I thought the Chozo were all good guys, and this illustration was dope because of that. This was pretty interesting, and I can't wait to see how this is going to develop in the next games. Also, that 2D/10 text... Are they hinting to a new Metroid 2D game revolving around that villain? HYPE!
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i completed the game 100% and i was actually more surprised by the epic final boss fight, but th memories were interesting.
Finale said: I just want the plot to move forward.Metroid is one of the few nintendo franchises in what the plot contains some relevance(and it's actually a pretty decent plot,when it's done without dialogue).And i want new planets to explore.Zebes and SR388 are done,time to go somewhere else. As for artstyle,2d sprites all day.But i'm ok with 2.5d.It worked really well in Samus returns |
agreed
Jumpin said: There's not really a thing as 2.5 dimensions. |
i bet you voted 4D