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MTZehvor on 04 October 2017
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Snoorlax said:
Volterra_90 said:

Was that Meta Ridley from Prime? Is it the first time a 2D Metroid game makes a reference to the Prime franchise? What an epic fight nevertheless.

I know Prime fans get offended by this but i don't think the Prime game take place in the same timeline as the 2D games.

They're spinoffs but yeah that "final boss" fight was epic though it wasn't really neccessary imho but on the other hand the Queen Metroid fight was kinda lackluster. AM2R certaintly handled that part much better.

MTZehvor said

While people do talk about Fusion's plot, and in particular how it would jump to a Metroid Dread, it's worth noting that the part that is consistently discussed is what is shown in the game; i.e. Samus telling the Federation to go fuck itself and blowing up the BSL. From my experience, no one cares much about the part of the game that's just "told" to the player, i.e. Samus' reflections on Adam, or Adam's long, droning speeches about whatever was next up on the kill list. Additionally, the end of the game winds up being a hot point of discussion because it is a cliffhanger, and, more notably, a 15 year old cliffhanger that still has shown no signs of being resolved. It's going to be a major talking point among the fanbase just because it's been such an absurdly long time. 

As for "nobody talks about Prime's story," if you were around the fanbase at the time, the cliffhanger that followed Prime 1's ending was also a major talking point until the announcement of Echoes. Prime's story isn't discussed all that consistently nowadays because, well, all the gaps are pretty much filled in. There isn't a lot left to discuss; we know the story and there aren't any major mysteries that can really be speculated on. Corruption's cliffhanger was a pretty common talking point too until Federation Force revealed that it didn't mean anything; at least, not immediately. Wait for about a year or so, and Sylux will probably become the most popular talking point as we get closer to Prime 4.

TL;DR: The type of story (Prime vs. 2D) doesn't really make a difference as to whether the story is more or less talked about; it's a matter of whether there's stuff left open for discussion/speculation. The one exception to this is something like Other M where the story is so atrociously bad it will garner discussion for years to come.

I was around at the Prime fanbase, of course they would talk about what the sequel would be about and also the hint of that Hunter's spaceship at the end of Prime 3 gave a lot of speculation yet still, nobody really talks about the Prime games for their story because it just isn't as developed like in other games like in Zelda or even Mario.

Prime 3 tried to tell a Halo like space opera and it didn't make me care one bit about any of the characters other than Samus and Ridley. Fusion, the intro of Super and Other M makes clear why Samus is on her mission and what or who is important to her. The Prime games just start and end within their own world without making any connections to other games other than the original which barely has any story to begin with. You could say theyre just open ended and can fit anywhere depending on the player's interpretation.

Say whatever you want about Other M but, believe it or not, its thanks to Other M that Fusion got recognised for it's brilliance and the whole "canonicity" got taken more seriously even though it was controversial and "divided the fanbase" which in reality has always been a mess of community. Fusion finally found it's audience even though it's still has a lot of people in the fanbase who don't like it but compared to how despised it was, it sure took it's time to get the attention it deserved but it finally got there and the interest in the series' chronology was revived. Now im just waiting for Metroid 5.

To the former point, Prime is considered in the same timeline as the 2D games, according to a booklet detailing the series included with the SNES classic edition that launched recently.

To the second point, I'd disagree with that vehemently. The lore of the Prime games is probably the most heavily discussed component of the series' story that isn't directly focused on sequels or just discussions related to Other M. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by development, but I'm not sure there's any story aspect that Mario or Zelda come close to touching Metroid in. Story is a far more common point of discussion in the Metroid series, at least if the series' respective reddit pages are anything to go by, and Prime related discussion makes up a sizable portion of that.

Prime 3, I would argue, is arguably the most misunderstood Metroid game out there, and this is one thing that the Geek Critique absolutely nailed in his review of it. The point was never to make you care about any of the other hunters, or any character in the game besides Samus. The point is to establish characters (particularly the Hunters) as rivals and characters with at least comparable power to Samus, so that when they become corrupted, you're left in a position of "Wow, these guys couldn't handle Phazon; I better be careful myself." It's meant to demonstrate the corruptive power of Phazon, not make you feel sorry for people.

Finally...nah. I'll go with the "not" on the "believe it or not." Metroid's story was and has always been a major point of discussion among fans, and Other M did nothing but create divisions that didn't exist before and got people arguing about the narrative instead of calmly discussing it. Fusion's story was just as well understood and liked before as it was after.