| jason1637 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBCdrRmJjyk&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=ieUba7Kee07Tp-l7-6 |
But it doesnt run innative 4K 60fps, you can only choose adifferent modes, pretty fake news from them
Not seeing much of a difference myself but I don't expect a big jump from PS4 (OG) to PS5 either. Graphics has plateau'd.
Ruler said:
But it does even with a 1000€ CPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jYr56_-ftE
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Good thing then that the comparison is very different, since the PC video you linked has the game maxed out in every possible option while running at 4k, versus the Xbox One X version which not only doesn't have the same amount of detail, but also has three different modes specifically for what you want(4k mode, framerate mode, details mode) - by comparison there isn't seperate modes on the PC because it's maxing out ever single thing on screen, the details, the resolution, and the framerate at said details and resolution. As much as I can understand that the X is a great value for console gamers, it's a bit disingenous to say that it rekts PCs like a lot of people seem to be implying. Yes, that PC is having a hard time running it at 4k above 30 fps ... but it's still getting better framerate than the 4k version on the X, and it's maxing out every possible setting.
Plus, this is anecdotal evidence but, the Tomb Raider port is good to pretty good on PC, not great. I've played games that looked better than it and got consistently above 60 fps on max settings, whereas playing Rise of the Tomb Raider would give me 55-75 fps consistently, and occasionally dip below that.
Also...wouldn't most 4k gamers on PC be using ... a 1080Ti? Not a 1080?
NATO said:
The biggest problem is there's nothing new to play. Tomb Raider in 4k is good and well but it's also a game that's almost 3 years old and has multiple different versions. |
Scorpio isn't for you, we get it, its obvious in your other comments. Other people might be interested in playing the best console versions of multiplatform games new and old, you are not thats fine, but don't try to kill the excitement because it feels like you are a little, no offense.
From everything on Eurogamer and Digital foundry the amount of native 4k is shocking and as a owner of a good pc I can tell you the difference btween 1440p/checkerboarding and native is very visable, great upgrades. PS4 Pro has done a good job catching up after release but on launch last november the selection was VERY limited and some games had issues.
Looks like its going to be a very solid hardware launch for MS
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How about we all calm down and wait for when it comes to the NX. It'll blow away the OneX too
Captain_Yuri said:
What is the difference is between native 4k vs 2160p checkerboard? |
Essentially you are not getting the clarity that real 4k is bringing to the table. It's Pseudo or "fake" 4k.
The difference depends on the scene, resolution and other effects being employed of course.
And it also depends on your display and how far you sit from it.
If you are running at only 30-40" at 4k, then you are likely not going to be able to tell the difference.
| Snoopy said: The thing we have to remember is this difference is going to apply to many other games too. Pretty much all multiplatform games should be consider xbox one x console exclusive if they have these big differences. |
They are the same game.
That would be like someone saying that all Multiplats were essentially Playstation 4 exclusive because of the large improvement over the base Xbox one version.
Didn't fly for that. Doesn't fly for this.
| Snoopy said: Would you want to play MGS5 or CODBO3 on ps3/360 when you have an xbox one or a ps4? Or bayonetta on ps3 when there is a 360 version. Difference this much means the game should be consider a console exclusive and the other version should be ignored. |
The difference between the Xbox One and Xbox 360 is significantly larger than the Xbox One X and Playstation 4 Pro.
Your argument is bordering on a nonsensical fallacy.
| Snoopy said: Tomb Raider on ps4 is a bad port when you compare it to the one x. And that image is similar to me compare to this image.
4k textures is a big leap from hd textures. |
I think you might be confused, Texture resolution is independent of the output resolution.
4k textures (4096x4096) were in some Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 games, heck I wouldn't even be surprised if some games used 8k textures thanks to the benefits that Virtual Texturing brang.
| Johnw1104 said: Well I can certainly see some improvement there, though it's difficult to tell just how much there is on my laptop. In my experience graphical differences become very apparent on my 4k TV as it's large enough to really take advantage of it, so I suspect youtube really isn't doing it justice for most of us. It definitely seems to me like the Xbox 1 X is the ideal multiplat console going forward if you don't have yourself a nice PC, and I have to give Microsoft some credit for getting so many games to update for it from the start. Either way, I imagine Digital Foundry is going to become quite a battleground for fanboys going forward lol |
Indeed. Youtube wouldn't be doing it Justice.
The Xbox one X being the ideal console for Multiplatform games outside of the PC was always going to be a given once we knew what Hardware it had under the hood.
Snoopy said:
Demnishing returns? The game looks STUNNING on xbox one x. Hell, a gtx 180 will have a hard time pull this stuff off son. |
A "gtx 180" doesn't exist. But I assume you meant Geforce 1080? Well. The Geforce 1080 is more powerful than the Xbox One X. And can actually run the game at 4k, with all the details dialed up, the Xbox One X cannot.
Fact is, the Xbox One X's performance is more inline with a Geforce 1060/Radeon RX 580 than a Geforce 1080, only so much you can pull off with that kind of graphics performance.
| Snoopy said: Son, a 1080 is only as good as the developers utilize it and it won't because it isn't a closed system son. |
Then why do all the games on a Geforce GTX 1080 typically look better?
Please don't troll, be serious.
| DialgaMarine said: The game still does not look that good to me. Horizon Zero Dawn looks far better, and offers a true open world to boot. Uncharted 4 at its worst completely blows RotTR away. For a game that was originally marketed as a XB1 exclusive, getting a genuine update that makes full use of the X hardware was a given. Still not impressed though. |
Yet. If Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted 4 were ported to the Xbox One X, they could have a significant visual upgrade.
In general though, exclusives do tend to push past multiplatforms visualls. (Although, there are exceptions to the rule, like StarWars: Battlefront.)
| Dyllyo said: What a surprise. They look exactly the same. |
| Oneeee-Chan!!! said: Is the difference between Pro and X1X bigger than PS2 and GC ? |
Hard to say, raw numbers say "yes". But there is more to it than that.
We would need more games being compared to know by how much... As that is the best example to go by.
| malistix1985 said: I would think so, yes, the memory bandwith and extra memory just unlock a complete different level of textures and stuff, the NGC was significantly faster and also has better textures and graphics in games used but the difference on the 1X will be much more easely used because everything is based on PC codes the extra power will be unlocked easely. |
However. You need to account for diminishing returns.
| NATO said: Where the Xbox One X is noticably ahead (higher resolution textures due to more ram to store them), weirdly, the PS4 Pro does a better job of rendering objects in the distance in some cases too, and has an overall less washed out appearance from contrasts. *definitely* not worth the asking price. |
This is a single old game with a few enhancements.
I think anyone expecting a generational difference are kidding themselves.
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| Snoopy said: The thing we have to remember is this difference is going to apply to many other games too. Pretty much all multiplatform games should be consider xbox one x console exclusive if they have these big differences. |
i realise you guys are desperate after 4 years of having your arses handed to you, but my god the nonsense and desperation
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