Hiku said:
Slimebeast said:
Wait a second. The quote you bolded in my post, that's about this car driving terrorist. I'm just speculating that he didn't attend these types of rallies before the protests in Charlotsville. Do you have new information?
And your ridiculous claims that these alt-right leaders like Richard Spencer urge people to commit violence, it's not even worthy of a response.
"Anyone who sings along in a song like that is not a good person." lol, decides who? You? So you completely dismiss black humour?
It's funny that the left portrayes everyone on the right even at the individual level as "evil" persons, but when it comes to people their side committing violence, it's explained away as acts of frustration and discrimination. Hypcrisy.
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By speculating that he didn't take part in alt-right meetings, you're trying to portray it like meetings between alt-right white supremacists wouldn't promote hatred and violence. As if these meetings are Care Bear fan clubs. But we're talking about meetings where the leader yells "sieg heil" and people do Nazi salutes.
Richard Spencer doesn't personally verbally ask people to comitt acts of violence. He's not that stupid. But he gets people to do Nazi salutes and chant things like "Siegh heil" and do Nazi salutes. That's more than enough. The rest of the Nazi community will take care of the rest.
The song was written by white supremacists. Humor is not their message. You won't find the same kind of lyrics from that artist about the death of any white supremacist. And that's another example of how they promote hatred and violence in their community, through music.
And anyone on any end of the political spectrum commiting violent acts like this should be condemned. But don't try to equate acts of violence from a perfectly normal political party, to acts of violence from a party that gets the crowd chanting "Sieg Heil".
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No, it's actually the other way around. Had this, let's call him terrorist, attended many alt-right meetings in the past, obviously it would be much easier to make the case that it's a consequence of hateful rhetoric. It's common logic.
But instead I believe, based on my experience of how various people connected to these movements work psychologically, that the 20 year old terrorist is more "the lonesome guy with empathy and anger management issues who has nurtured anger and frustration for a long while, got triggered and exploded into rage" than it was a planned, deliberate act commited by a person incited by other supremacists.
This disturbed person was incited by the hateful and tense atmosphere in Charlotsville caused by both sides of protestors, yes.
Caused by ideologically based incitement to commit violence and terror, absolutely no.
Your accusations toward Richard Spencer are plain ridiculous, partly because you base them on assumptions rather than actually having studied his rethorics.
I claim that I know far better than you how a young Jimmie Åkesson works psychologically at a very young age and what caused him to sing along a white supremacist and racist song at a party. There was humour involved, but also a kind of rebellious caught-in-the-moment attitude against what is politically correct at the time. I don't know the details of what the song was to be honest, so I can't comment on your reference to the death of white supremacists or such details.
No, it's not fair to describe the protestors on the left side in Charlotsville as simply "a perfectly normal political party". If you do that, you admit that you have a very big problem denouncing hatred and violence commited by the Antifa.
And where did the crowd chant "Sieg Heil"? I'm not aware that that happened. Source?
