I think you're slightly downplaying the TRUE succes of PS1 and PS2 by saying that they sold well due to being able to play pirated games. It couldn't be the fact that they had compelling software or was the cheapest DVD player on the market, right?! At the bolded, PS4 didn't have a library advantage over Xbox One, but neither did the Xbox One have that advantage over the PS4. They were pretty much neck in neck.

I will admit you do have a point about marketing and even the advantages over N64.

Since Sony has stated they beat X1 2:1 in the U.S. since beginning of 2017, I'd assume global sales are at least 3:1, probably even worse now for 2017. Weekly numbers on VGChartz seemed to reflect that..it's just a bit strange it doesn't really show up in the overall numbers...the overall ratio must long have passed 2:1 by now. 

PS4 is more powerful than than the X1 and for the first 2 years the PS4 did not have a library advantage. Price and marketing is what sells consoles. You could have the worst line up in games and a console can still sell well depending on the marketing. 

Also PS1 and PS2 sold extremely well due to the fact they could play pirated games which obviously helped alot compared to the more expensive software selling N64. Free games is a very attractive thing for just about everybody.

This is always a tricky topic.... being that everyone has their own idea of what kinda game appeals to them or not. But if we were simply to go of number of games that scored about 70 on meta critic? Well, in that case I am sorry to inform you that PS4 had a library advantage. Yh I know its shocking, being taht a lot of people said it didn't have any games.

And as to what you say sells consoles? I think you are trying to downplay things here. I personally think that games sells consoles. Price and marketing are good no doubt, but games sells consoles above everything else. 

And lastly, do you know how silly it is coming to a sales website, clicking onto a sales thread only to say people looking for sales numbers care too much? So why are you a member of such a website? Wait, you are here just to laugh at the people that care about sales numbers?............ which do you think is worse?

Considering this is a sales website, it is appropriate for people to want to discuss it.

Hmm i am a member to this site to discuss gaming and its news. I couldn't care about sales. Just for your fyi.

Its alright to discuss it. Its more about those who like to call out numbers to justify there purchases. Thats what i find funny so i am glad MS hide there numbers just to shut them up.

PS4 is more powerful than than the X1 and for the first 2 years the PS4 did not have a library advantage. Price and marketing is what sells consoles. You could have the worst line up in games and a console can still sell well depending on the marketing. 

Also PS1 and PS2 sold extremely well due to the fact they could play pirated games which obviously helped alot compared to the more expensive software selling N64. Free games is a very attractive thing for just about everybody.

There are a ton of other sites you could be on to discuss gaming and it's news. This is a site that's first and foremost about sales figures of consoles and games. GTFO with that BS, It's obvious you care about sale and you care A LOT, but understandably MS fans have been trying to pretend they don't care but can't really help entering topics such as these just to tell everyone how much they don't care and hence expose how it's hurting their feelings.lol

Poor countries such as Brazil never seen an original PS1/PS2 disc, despite being extremely popular over here

PS4 is more powerful than than the X1 and for the first 2 years the PS4 did not have a library advantage. Price and marketing is what sells consoles. You could have the worst line up in games and a console can still sell well depending on the marketing. 

Also PS1 and PS2 sold extremely well due to the fact they could play pirated games which obviously helped alot compared to the more expensive software selling N64. Free games is a very attractive thing for just about everybody.

It's obvious he would care about sales if the forces would be switched.

Im confident the Vita would've been a hit would it have allowed SD cards and pirating games like the PSP.

Cheaper price, more power, more games. PS4 was a better value proposition from day 1. The Xbone didn't even launch in most of Europe until a year later, that's how much they cared about the non-English speaking world. I also disagree about the libraries, in the 1st 2 years it wasn't such a gap it is now, but PS4 was getting tons of games the Xbone wasn't, like FFXIV, War Thunder, Warframe, The Talos Principle, The Witness, Disgaea 5 and other niche Nipponese stuff etc. Add those up and they become a big factor in my purchasing decision. The perception was that greatness is coming (and has arrived) because of all the 1st parties they have and 3rd parties around them.

Sony had like 3 press conferences each year where new shit was getting announced every year. While on Xbone the announcements dried up after prematurely announcing literally their entire line up for the whole generation at E3 2014, and having most of it cancelled in the coming years, fast forward 3 years later their exclusive output has come to a standstill.

All these things combined: games and Sony's efforts in emerging markets, not just the West, has made PS the brand it is.

"Also PS1 and PS2 sold extremely well due to the fact they could play pirated games which obviously helped"

Even with piracy both consoles had billions of official games sold. Another reason is perhaps they had much bigger and better libraries than the competition.