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Teeqoz said:
jason1637 said:
The PS4 needs to sell more than 3.7 million more units for it to beat 2015.

It is over 200k units ahead so far when you compare the years though. But the PS4 had a very strong holiday period in 2015, so it'll be tough. The PS4 sold over 3 million only in nov+dec in 2015.

The following months should be interesting for the PS4. I think it will definitely be up TOY for August and October, and November.. If Sony only decides to bundle the PS4 Pro for Destiny 2 and not the base PS4 i'm not sure if it will be up YOY.

 



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jason1637 said:
Teeqoz said:

It is over 200k units ahead so far when you compare the years though. But the PS4 had a very strong holiday period in 2015, so it'll be tough. The PS4 sold over 3 million only in nov+dec in 2015.

The following months should be interesting for the PS4. I think it will definitely be up TOY for August and October, and November.. If Sony only decides to bundle the PS4 Pro for Destiny 2 and not the base PS4 i'm not sure if it will be up YOY.

 

There is a Destiny 2 Pro bundle 

https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/07/10/introducing-the-limited-edition-destiny-2-ps4-pro-bundle/ 

 

It's not doing too well on Amazon.



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CosmicSex said:
jason1637 said:
When was the last time the XBO sold less than 100k? I think it was the month before the kinect got unbundled but I might be wrong.

I beleive you are correct.  If memory is correct the sales bounced back, not quite overtaking the PS4, but at least getting back over 100k.  It was around 77k. The shocking part about this is that Amazon had a really good sale in July for Xbox One so I am a little stumped.  Still, for Nintendo, to have 2/3 of the top spots this month is also worthy of praise.  

PS4 sales also dipped before the pro.  I am not sure how much of this also was because of the X model.   However, when Sony one november, it is important to remember that the number one bundle was the Slim Uncharte bundle, by a HUGE margin.   Therefore, while it is cool to calculate the potential X sales, it is more important to calculate a rebounded S model sales, because this will be key for Microsoft if they hope to win November.  The screwed up part is that Microsoft has to make the S model undercut the X model to push sales during the holiday season.  This is because you don't want people holding off getting an Xbox because they can't afford the X model.  Similar to Pro last year.   With Nintendo coming in strong, I think Microsoft has two huge problems:

1. Regardless of what folks say, I was right about the Switch being popular. It is going to be the single hottest item this holiday and you can take that to the bank.

2. A 199.99 PS4 will make the S model an even harder sale.  The bundle options are limitless and severly more attractive than Microsof't lineup. I predict that Crackdown 3 will ship free with the Xbox One to help fight it.

Except crackdown has been delayed till next year now. No halo. No gears. No crackdown. No big third party marketing deals. Only a $500 upgrade console with only forza 7 launching with it. Forza is always great but it's not a huge system seller. 



Shadow1980 said:

And with that being said, here's a couple of charts I was able to update:

Haven't made a chart yet, but here's Switch vs. 3DS lifetime sales after the first five months:

Switch: 1794k
3DS: 946k

That's an 848k lead for the Switch over the 3DS.

The second graph really shows how big the Wii was.



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Shadow1980 said:

There needs to be a rule that anyone who tries to pick a fight with someone providing NPD numbers should be banned from the thread, and if they keep it up they get a temp ban.

These discussions are supposed to be about sales. If we're getting sales numbers, let's just take them at that. If librarian was actually driven off by this stupid drama, it may have ended the last possible chance for us to get actual NPD numbers. I honestly do not give two shits about your opinions on the leaker. Keep it to your damn self. Shut the fuck up and let us have this rare opportunity.

Exactly! A big deal was made for nothing. People just being F'n petty!

 



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Kerotan said:
Azuren said:
Kero. Stahp.

I didn't leak anything to gaf.  I'm just calling it as it is. If that's the reason the leaks stop then it just proves the leaker wants positive attention. If his sole intention was to drop the numbers he'd do that and stop posting.  

 

And anyway we're probably being double bluffed here.  They know NPD are sick of leaks directly to gaf so the leakers are likely using Vgchartz as a proxy to indirectly get them to gaf. Meanwhile they beg,  please don't leak to gaf,  knowing full well they will get there so they don't look like they ever intended it.  

 

I'd even say triple bluffed.  The NPD guys themselves want this and this whole thing is a smokescreen so they don't want to look bad to the companies paying them.  They don't want these numbers kept secret but have to.  So they use leakers to get the data public while pretending they are trying to stop them.  

 

Anyway that's my opinion and if that is enough to stop the leaker leaking here it just proves something weird is up.  If you are genuine,  just drop the numbers and stop looking for attention. 

Kero.

 

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Shadow1980 said:

And with that being said, here's a couple of charts I was able to update:

Haven't made a chart yet, but here's Switch vs. 3DS lifetime sales after the first five months:

Switch: 1794k
3DS: 946k

That's an 848k lead for the Switch over the 3DS.

Cumulative YTD for each year on PS4 would be appreciated



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I agree with Shadow. This is an NPD thread and the numbers very much appreciated since NPD themselves don't release them. So we shouldn't argue with the leaker for something like posting numbers on other sites.
Anyway thanks for the charts Shadow, the Switch is doing a lot more than the 3DS. How is it doing compared to the Wii or Wii U?



Shadow1980 said:

There needs to be a rule that anyone who tries to pick a fight with someone providing NPD numbers should be banned from the thread, and if they keep it up they get a temp ban.

These discussions are supposed to be about sales. If we're getting sales numbers, let's just take them at that. If librarian was actually driven off by this stupid drama, it may have ended the last possible chance for us to get actual NPD numbers. I honestly do not give two shits about your opinions on the leaker. Keep it to your damn self. Shut the fuck up and let us have this rare opportunity.

Quoted for truth!

 

Adding to that, some of our users were just generally rude toward this leaker that didn't even have a chance to prove himself. When was being a general asshole to new users so acceptable on this forum? It's one thing to be skeptical but that doesn't mean we have to be overbearing with our opinions. It should be quite obvious how valuable leaked NPD data should be to the general community here, hopefully next time we won't have users shooting the site in the foot.