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Would you like MS to team up with Nintendo?

It's sounds impossible b... 82 36.12%
 
No that would be awful! 126 55.51%
 
I don't know. 19 8.37%
 
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VAMatt on 04 August 2017

I agree with many commenters here, in that the two companies are too culturally different for a partnership to work. But, there have been a few times over the past decade or so that it looked like Nintendo was headed for trouble. If they ever actually get to a point where they're liquidating assets, MS would certainly make sense as a buyer of much of their IP. So, it wouldn't surprised me if MS someday owned Mario and Zelda.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 August 2017
couchmonkey said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

They could do that but nintnedo wouldn't buy their ips. They are a proud company that focus on the market they are going after. Micorsoft doesn't have ips in Nintendos league and quite frankly they are aiming elsewhere when it comes to the type of audience for the games they are pushing out are different. Should nintnedo branch out? Yes. The problem is that the are not.

You know, I'm a huge Nintendo fan, but it definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings to see Halo and Forza on Switch.  As you commented, Nintendo doesn't branch out a lot.  All the new IPs like ARMS feel very "Nintendo".  More variety would be nice.

I think a deep team-up of any type (closer together than than "put your software on our hardware, please") would cause all types of trouble.  As others have commented, Microsoft tends to run studios in to the ground.  Nintendo also tends to slowly kill off it's non Japanese studios, I haven't heard anything about NST in ages (maybe they're still doing the Minis games? meh.) and Retro suddenly isn't responsible for Metroid Prime anymore...IMO, Retro's track record should have them running both Metroid and DK and maybe a brand-new IP, too. 

Not to mention the myriad other problems, like the mismatch on hardware ideals, cultural differences between the companies, etc.

Playing Nintendo is like going to Disney Studio in a console. Microsoft doesnt output enough IP's to satisfy Nintnendo level game development. If Nintendo wanted a Halo, they could make one themselves or acquire a studio that would accomplish the style of game they would like. MIcrosoft bought Nintendos old second party and utterly destroyed the relevance of the brand. Either that or they could just build a powerful console that third party could put their games on. Take Sony for instance, Sony couldnt make their own Halo and realized they could not compete with most multiplayer first person shooters, so they stopped trying. Their brand is stronger than ever because they are just being themselves. People buy Nintendo products for fun, not for a simulation like Forza...and if they wanted it they could get their sim from third party.



Snoorlax on 05 August 2017
AsGryffynn said:
Snoorlax said:

What the hell are you talking about?

MS would not have influence on Nintendo's games but on their consoles and vice versa.

Read my original post.

Nintendo already teamed up with DeNA and they're doing pretty well because of DeNA's experience in mobile games. Apple is better at smartphone hardware not so much gaming.

Exactly, and add to that MS's exclusive games that would be the killer app in the gaming market.

Learn some history before you open speak... 

Stay on topic or just don't post at all...

DarthMetalliCube said:

Didn't Microsoft attempt to buy Nintendo way back in the day?

Anyway, it's not something I can see happening anytime soon. The two companies have very different styles when it comes to games, marketting, and the like. Though as it was mentioned - it could actually be a good partnership though in some repsects, as Microsoft is in good with the major third parties unlike Nintendo and have a much stronger presence in the UK market, where Nintendo doesn't thrive as well. Nintendo, meanwhile, could help MS immensely in Japan where MS is almost non existant. Then there's Nintendo's expertise in handhelds, vs Microsoft's in online gaming. It would also be nice to see Rare reunite with Nintendo, as they were always best when they were working with Nintendo, and have largely become a shell of their former selves ever since partnering with Microsoft.

In the scheme of things though, I'd prefer Nintendo remain as a separate and independent gaming entity than MS. For all their faults/weaknesses, there is still much that they get right when it comes to making games, and I do like some of that artistic integrity and overall quality could be compromised if they decided to partner w/ a major largely non-gaming corporation like Microsoft. 

Nintendo is slowly but surely changing and getting with the times though, for the most part, in their own ways which sometimes work, sometimes don't teaming up with MS would not only open up their minds about how the Western market works but also on how to improve their own policies and practices and improve on MS' understanding of the Japanese market and Asian market in general. It wouldn't be easy and would take some time but it would definitely be a win - win.

NATO said:
Snoorlax said:

Read my original post.

Im sure if Nintendo ever want advice on selling the least amount of console's, they'll know to call Microsoft.

Well, Xbox One is still outselling the WiiU by a large margin even before Nintendo halted production on WiiU and Xbox One is still getting major third party support without any worries of getting them. In contrast Switch owners have to hope, wait and see and prove themselves by buying mostly inferior, 5 to 20 year old ports to convince third parties in bringing their games to Switch ... So i guess Nintendo could definitely learn a thing or two from Microsoft.

NobleTeam360 said:
Instead of teaming up, MS could just sell the Xbox brand and it's IP's to Nintendo, of course, such a transaction would probably cost 10's of billions making it extremely unlikely, just as unlikely as any sort of team up between the two companies. But hey, it's a scenario that's fun to think about I suppose.

That would be a dumb move by MS, why would they sell their brand and IP's if they can still make millions of dollars off of them and Nintendo would probably not buy them anyway because they don't like or understand the realistic aesthetics and heavy focus on online that made their games so popular in the first place. MS could team up with Nintendo and keep making their games for the same console with Nintendo.

couchmonkey said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

They could do that but nintnedo wouldn't buy their ips. They are a proud company that focus on the market they are going after. Micorsoft doesn't have ips in Nintendos league and quite frankly they are aiming elsewhere when it comes to the type of audience for the games they are pushing out are different. Should nintnedo branch out? Yes. The problem is that the are not.

You know, I'm a huge Nintendo fan, but it definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings to see Halo and Forza on Switch.  As you commented, Nintendo doesn't branch out a lot.  All the new IPs like ARMS feel very "Nintendo".  More variety would be nice.

Not to mention the myriad other problems, like the mismatch on hardware ideals, cultural differences between the companies, etc.

Nintendo fans would definitely love to see games like Halo and Forza on Switch even if most act like they don't care and Xbox owners would definitely like to play Mario or Pokemon with their children once in a while.

You know i think people focus way too much on this cultural difference between Nintendo and MS, of course there are many differences between the two companies which we need to be realistic about but did that make the deal between 2 Japanese companies (NinPlaystation) go well? Not at all, yet today, Nintendo actually agreed to have a Microsoft owned game on multiple Nintendo consoles and even their Xbox Live server running in their port of the game. Sony on the other hand? Didn't, and let's not forget that in the past Nintendo was willing to team up with Phillips (a western tech giant) over Sony, of course that didn't turn out too well but hey........................................................................................................ It's Phillips.

killeryoshis said:
The two companies are as compatible as oil and water. These two companies do not mix. Imagine a Switch that is $500 or more just to have the latest graphics with even less battery life. Not good.

However they should team up to get Rare games to go multiplatform.

I think a powerful and innovative console by Ninty and MS for 400$ could work.

Kyuu said:
The better question is: What if Sony teams up with Nintendo? will the console they make outsell the PS2/DS?

Perhaps, but Nintendo and Sony tried to team up in the past and it didn't work out.

Soundwave said:

If they actually teamed up and were "sober" and just made a "normal" console at a $399 or less cost and a handheld to go with it, my personal feeling is they'd beat Sony ... and beat them pretty badly and they'd basically have full control of the entire game industry (outside of smartphone/tablet games).

They'd rule PC too I think (sorry Steam).

But they are too stubborn to do that, so I doubt it will ever happen. MS sells too many XBoxes too even if XB1 is going to hit 40-45 million+ which is too many to just stop making their own dedicated consoles from and Nintendo has a safe haven with portable consoles that Sony really can't touch so there isn't much incentive for them to move from there unless other tablet makers start to encroach on that space over time.

But seperately, Sony is able to beat up on them pretty good in the standard console area. It's like a big brother that's able to beat up on his other two siblings, but the two siblings don't realize if they teamed up they whup the bigger brother.

The question is what is MS going to come up with after Xbox One? Hype towards the XBX is nowhere near the level of the PS4PRO when it was announced and even that one did modest at best. Of course MS won't go down if their Xbox brand fails but that only questions if the fans will have any faith in MS anymore after we move on to the next console generation.

DirtyP2002 said:
sethnintendo said:
Seems to be that Microsoft would need Nintendo now more than Nintendo ever needing Microsoft.

Yeah, the Wii U took the world by storm with its great online network, great third party support and outstanding media functionality.
Oh wait...

 

I think both would acutally benefit.

I agree, WiiU was one big disaster which Nintendo thought would be a success based on the "Wii" name alone and it failed misserably yet the Xbox One despite their fuckups and consumer distrust is still around selling with a mid generation upgrade on the way.

Nintendo can learn from MS and vice versa.

maxleresistant said:

What if Nintendo and Microsoft worked together? What if Alligators had lazers in their eyes? What if tables could fly? What if my penis was the size of a pringles tube?

Nintendo barely knows how to work with any western studio. So actually make a partnership like this? No that's just complete non-sense. It will never happen.

Nintendo worked with Rare before they went second party and after that their relationship became legendary still talked about to this day. In fact many indie and third party developers praise Nintendo's support, i will say this was thanks to Iwata who actually wanted to interact more with the western market but just didn't understand it and i believe this is still the case with the current president as well. Teaming up with MS would only improve each others perspective on both western and eastern markets.



NATO on 06 August 2017

 

 



Snoorlax on 07 August 2017
NATO said:
Snoorlax said:

Well, Xbox One is still outselling the WiiU by a large margin even before Nintendo halted production on WiiU and Xbox One is still getting major third party support without any worries of getting them. In contrast Switch owners have to hope, wait and see and prove themselves by buying mostly inferior, 5 to 20 year old ports to convince third parties in bringing their games to Switch ... So i guess Nintendo could definitely learn a thing or two from Microsoft.

Let's look at Nintendo's native Japan.

WiiU's sold in Japan: 3.32 million.
Xbox one's sold in Japan: 0.08 million.

Nintendo's biggest flop since the virtualboy, too.

And worldwide?, hmm, let's see.

65 million 3ds and 14 million wiiu is a hell of a lot more hardware units than 30 million xbox ones.

Or perhaps you mean Nintendo could do with some help in the mobile market too, despite the release of the wildly popular pokemon Go and Mario Run..  what could Microsoft offer them here?

Oh right, their 0.3% (4Q2016, a drop of 0.8% from 4Q2015) market share of mobile devices for windows phones.. I can see Nintendo salivating at the thought already.....

Who needs to learn a thing or two again?

The only thing Microsoft are good at is taking money from their OS sales and burning it.

Let's look at Microsoft's natve North America and Europe.

North America

WiiU: 6.23 million

Xbox One: 18.50 million (and still selling)

Europe

WiiU: 3.52 million

Xbox One: 8.06 million (and still selling)

We were comparing the sales of home consoles more specifically WiiU vs Xbox One since they are direct competitors of the same console generation and the 3DS directly competes with the Vita but if you want to include the 3DS and Nintendo mobile games against solely the Xbone then i might have to include all the 12 editions sales of Windows 10, Windows Phone and Windows whatever but i'm too lazy to research all of the sales data just to prove to you that MS crushes Nintendo in sales department.



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Johnw1104 on 07 August 2017

Here's my current problem with Microsoft, and I say this as someone who loved the Xbox360: As far as games are concerned, Microsoft teaming up with Nintendo would just produce a console that has Nintendo games I want, which already exists.

Another way of saying it... I almost never see a game that's exclusive to the Xbox brand and not available for me on the PC that I actually want, so they'd bring nothing game-wise to any partnership in the near future. They could certainly foot the bill for more powerful hardware, but that's about it.



NATO on 07 August 2017

 

 



maxleresistant on 09 August 2017

maxleresistant said:

What if Nintendo and Microsoft worked together? What if Alligators had lazers in their eyes? What if tables could fly? What if my penis was the size of a pringles tube?

Nintendo barely knows how to work with any western studio. So actually make a partnership like this? No that's just complete non-sense. It will never happen.

Nintendo worked with Rare before they went second party and after that their relationship became legendary still talked about to this day. In fact many indie and third party developers praise Nintendo's support, i will say this was thanks to Iwata who actually wanted to interact more with the western market but just didn't understand it and i believe this is still the case with the current president as well. Teaming up with MS would only improve each others perspective on both western and eastern markets.

This was more than 15 years ago dude, since then Iwata cut ties with western developers. Kimishima could repair the problems Iwata created,  it looks like he is trying at least.

But it will take a lot of time. 

Anyway, Microsoft and Nintendo partnering? No. It will never happen.



Lenny93 on 09 August 2017

Microsoft ruin everything they touch, including their own OS. Rare went from the greatest game company in the world(Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, DK64, Killer Instinct) to garbage (ghouls and ghosts, Perfect Dark Zero), they shut down Lionhead, they wanted Bungie to give Halo a generic title. I don't want them anywhere near Nintendo.



Sales prediction, PS4: 122 Million, Xbox one: 50 million, Switch: 105 million. 

Snoorlax on 10 August 2017
Johnw1104 said:
Here's my current problem with Microsoft, and I say this as someone who loved the Xbox360: As far as games are concerned, Microsoft teaming up with Nintendo would just produce a console that has Nintendo games I want, which already exists.

Another way of saying it... I almost never see a game that's exclusive to the Xbox brand and not available for me on the PC that I actually want, so they'd bring nothing game-wise to any partnership in the near future. They could certainly foot the bill for more powerful hardware, but that's about it.

Yeah that's the problem right now with MS they have streamlined all of their exclusives to XBO and PC but even without their exclusive IP's if they managed to team up with Nintendo they could definitely attract more third party support to their own console which would help Nintendo immensely.

NATO said:
Snoorlax said:

Let's look at Microsoft's natve North America and Europe.

North America

WiiU: 6.23 million

Xbox One: 18.50 million (and still selling)

Europe

WiiU: 3.52 million

Xbox One: 8.06 million (and still selling)

We were comparing the sales of home consoles more specifically WiiU vs Xbox One since they are direct competitors of the same console generation and the 3DS directly competes with the Vita but if you want to include the 3DS and Nintendo mobile games against solely the Xbone then i might have to include all the 12 editions sales of Windows 10, Windows Phone and Windows whatever but i'm too lazy to research all of the sales data just to prove to you that MS crushes Nintendo in sales department.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night

Yeah nice comeback...lol

Lenny93 said:
Microsoft ruin everything they touch, including their own OS. Rare went from the greatest game company in the world(Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, DK64, Killer Instinct) to garbage (ghouls and ghosts, Perfect Dark Zero), they shut down Lionhead, they wanted Bungie to give Halo a generic title. I don't want them anywhere near Nintendo.

MS would not ruin Nintendo as they would not take control over them. It would just be partnership between the two.