I said they are lying? No. I said when they toute the game to be the showcase of X1X power on 4KHDR and the game looks this subpar this is bad for the game and X1X.

When they talked about the cloud making the Xbox like 8x more powerfull and how much would come from it... have it happened yet?

It's not a lie if they literally showed it off lol. Some of you go too HAM with the negativity, eschewing logic in the process.

Crackdown has a troubled development path. They are likely just having more trouble developing the MP than the SP, which makes sense considering the tech and networking involved. Wouldn't be surprised to see the MP delayed.

They haven't shown anything yet, that's the problem...instead of that fake The Cloud hype up trailer 3 years ago. If they delay the MP this game and MS are even more dead than they are already.

Warned ~ CGI

Cool story, bro. No point in responding to that nonsense :)

Its Evident that Crackdown 3 is not a game where PR is going to make it sell if this is the final graphics of the game. Some games do not look great but can be very fun to play. Not sure on CD 3 gameplay yet but its not going to win any award for its art style. I know I love pretty graphics but at the end of the day, I love fun more so we will see if CD3 packs the fun.

I just want to know if it still has 4-player co op and if we can level our agility to the point we can fly ala Crackdown 2?

Reading your last statement makes me not to take you serious.

You said they are being untrue which is essential the same thing but whatever. It's a conscious decision by the developer to have it look the way it does. Should MS just completely ignore their own game as one of their showcase games this year? I would love to see how you would handle this situation if you were in MS shoes. 

Again where did I said they were untrue on the game capability? Keep going and you may find something I really said or ment.

Yes it's a concious decision, and should be praised because? It doesn't look good, period. Not that it doesn't look photorealistic. It doesn't look good or graphically impressive or ambitious. And that is an AAA exclusive that they are putting as a showcase of X1X capabilities (and it is bad for them to use this as an example, same on putting how much better Minecraft 4k will look or putting low end indies as 4KHDR).

You just don't need to mention something if it won't do you any favor. Keep the 4KHDR ubber graphic tag for Forza, Metro, AC and others that could really be an eyecandy and on Crackdown talk about what it does good instead of pushing it as a good graphic showcase that it isn't and damage their own show.

The entire cloud agenda as it pertains to the XBO as a whole, and the benefits it would bring to the table were grossly, grossly overstated, to the point that "very deceitful" is an apt descriptor. If I remember, there were at least a few instances of hyperbole. There's a reason it went from being spammed in PR a few years ago, and today, ends up not being talked about at all. A practical application in the future? Sure. But when they were bandying it about?  No. You're not gonna make me go fishing are you? It's too hot today.