I'm amazed of the wii fans reaction since I thought this is what the wii fans wanted. Gee, didn't many here claim the motion controls is the future?!? Then why so much hatred toward Microsoft for designing their own remote? I could easily say the wii-mote copied my TV mote as their are pretty close the same size and shape. Clearly the wii-mote itself could be improved so more power to Microsoft hopefully to design a remote with better button lay out. (I'm not even a Xbox fan by the way)

There is nothing really new on the wii-mote just many techologies made into one device.

Also no matter if Sony or Microsoft comes out with thier own remote controller they won't have the Big N software.

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I am saying that Honda used the disruptive product to find a Blue Ocean (of outdoor motorbikes) and then moved upmarket to ultimately blow all established motorcycle manufacturers out of the market except for Harley-Davidson and BMW which barely survived. Harley-Davidson, who had all the advantages of brand, being a market leader in North America, was unsuccessful in attacking downmarket due to Honda’s superior business model. Also, Harley’s profits were coming from its upmarket. By attempting to go downmarket, it threatened their upmarket image. Harley had to retreat upmarket.

”So, you are saying that if Microsoft and Sony attempt to outdo Nintendo in the downmarket, not only will Nintendo’s superior business model win, but it will damage Sony and Microsoft’s upmarket?”

Correct. No one bought the Playstation 3 or Xbox 360 to play Peggle or other downmarket games. For quite some time, upmarket gamers are screaming at Nintendo for ‘destroying’ gaming. How do you think they will respond when Microsoft and Sony attempt to replicate Nintendo’s success in the downmarket?

”They will not be happy.”

Even companies that do not require profit for their game division, such as Microsoft, will struggle as their entire game division is dependent on the upmarket. Now imagine how Xbox Live and other Xbox 360 features will be if Microsoft goes downmarket.

”Oh my, Xbox 360 gamers will definitely NOT be happy.”

This is an additional reason for Microsoft to abandon the downmarket and remain upmarket. I believe Microsoft will attempt to fight for the downmarket while Sony will flee to the upmarket. But I doubt Microsoft will be fighting for the downmarket for too long before they retreat.


DISRUPTIVE LESSON #6: Combating the disruptor for the low tiers ends up destroying the brand for the high tiers.

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http://malstrom.50webs.com/disruptivestorm.htm

lol no way will that reach the shelfs, they will make something wii(motey)ish but surely not in that design

"upmarket gamers are screaming at Nintendo for ‘destroying’ gaming"

There is no such thing as "upmarket" or "downmarket" in gaming. In contrast to Honda, Microsoft or Nintendo only provide the platform. The content is delivered by software developers. (Of course there are first-party devs but this is a different matter).
So under the assumption that the Xbox motion control was competitive to the Wii one and lawful there would be two gaming platforms. The Wii and the 360 with the same capabilities and much more. And the price would be almost the same.

Adding motion controls doesn't make the 360 "downmarket". I think this is a clear example for taking an analogy where it doesn't fit.

Before answer it's better to read all the article and "Birdmen" too. I know that they are 2 very long articles ( however they are interesting ) but there the author explains what he means by "upmarket" and "downmarket" ( actually there are different tiers ... ).

Plus read my sign, the business strategy of a platform will heavily influence the destiny of a system.

I understand Microsoft copying the Wii remote. I really do and am not nearly as upset as some other Nintendo fans. This has happened to Nintendo with the D-Pad, the analog stick, etc. It was bound to happen. What bothers me is the rumor and lets hope its a rumor that they are going to rip off Miis. How unoriginal can you be. That means they'll have to come up with a platformer with a mascot like Mario too. Watch. I predict it will happen just like Sony did with Crash Bandicoot. Remember that guy?

 What is that ? RROD maybe ? :P ( jk ) .

"the business strategy of a platform will heavily influence the destiny of a system. "

Bah, the hardware, price and the available games will influence the destiny of a system. Just because someone invented upmarket and downmarket categories doesn't mean he is right. The nice thing about computers (and consoles) is that you can choose what you want to play.
You want great gaming with depth: play Mass Effects, you want easy access: download video Poker from XBOX live. Of course if you have limited resources your decisions will be important. But in this case it would be an addition taking nothing away.

We have too many analysts on this page .

this is going to be epic


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HAHA so sad... not much to say... it will flop if its real, it should die if it's being thought up, I wonder if the remote would get the RROD too =P the reason to have a 360 is when you DON'T want to play Wii games =\ so sad...