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Pemalite said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sonys exclusives are the gateway between the west and the east. One of the least friendly places to get jrpg ports these days. Most of my PC friends who love anime have PlayStation and Nintendo for that reason. They find Xbox to be redundant because it makes no bones about the fact the Xbox one is a is a steam box for their PC endeavors. Microsoft is making it so soon you won't need an Xbox if you don't want it. All you have to do is get an elite controller and invest in Windows 10. That's the real goal... what they've always wanted to do.

Doesn't matter if it is East or West. The bulk of games on the Playstation is on PC.
Japanese developers are also taking notice and releasing more of their games on PC these days, so your argument is moot.
I am amazed at how many people are getting defensive over this, this happened last console generation as well you know.

And I agree. The Xbox *is* redundant if you own a PC and you only care about games.
The Playstation you can also live without if you own a PC, but there are more gems that can draw you in, which is ultimately the big difference between Xbox and Playstation.

Regardless. If you are truly a passionate gamer and love games, you will own all the platforms and not be strictly stuck to one, these are multi-billion dollar companies, you don't owe them anything.

Azuren said:

I'm not talking about brands, I'm talking about specific platforms.

The platforms are under the brands unbrella. It holds true regardless of platform. So pick and choose. I don't care.

Azzanation said:

Are you going to forget that Halo 1, 2, Gears and Fable all crossed to PC back on the OG Xbox?

Xbox has always keep PC close. From there very first console. If anything MS are going back to there roots.

We cannot forget either that the Original Xbox took advantage of the PC's vast library and had some pretty good console exclusive titles like... The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind. Which is also playable on the Xbox 360 via emulation. (And I would assume, eventually Xbox One.)

Morrowind was amazing, sad that Gamecube and Playstation 2 gamers missed out on probably one of the best games of that entire generation.

With that, the Original Xbox shared the bulk of it's library with the PC. There was no real reason to own the Original Xbox as a PC gamer.
And yet... I still got one. - I still have it actually.

Well, that's a bit of a different situations than the play anywhere program. A lot of those PC ports aren't ever released in Japan at all and sometimes developed solely by the western branchs of those studios. Most of the ports wouldn't happen without the console success beforehand. I don't mind financing late ports for you though.



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vivster said:
That's what I've been saying all along. It's really sad that the most consumer friendly console maker is the one that sells the worst.
That's what you get if you condition console players that shitty consumer hating behavior is not only acceptable but encouraged.

 

Most consumer friendly?! Did you already forget always on DRM?! Trying to deceive customers at every E3 ever with strange wording?! The Cloud?! DX12?! 

You surely got a twisted mind if you really think that's consumer friendliness over there.



I think the thread title needs to be changed to something along the lines of "MS deserves praise for play anywhere" or "MS deserves praise for making their games available to more consumers"......the current title just doesn't seem to fit with the OP in my opinion.

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From the OP good for them for making games available for others. Is it good for the XB1 though....again in my opinion I don't think so not at all.



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b00moscone said:
I feel a chunk of people just want justification for buying their platform, and exclusives are the easiest way to do that.

To me it's not about saitisfaction it's about having more good games. The PS4 exclusives aren't great to me because no one else has them they're great because they are good games and I have the only console that can play that game. I also have the ability to play the other great multiplat games.

 

I agree with TS that multiplats is the  best solution everyone should get the chance to play these games. We don't though so if I have to choose I'll choose PS4. TS is basicalyl saying MS should be praised for having less good games avaliable to their consumers.



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Aeolus451 said:
That's backwards logic at it's best right there. Exclusives are the main reason why gamers choose one platform over the other. That's a fact. MS has likely lost interest in competing in the console gaming market. The only reason why MS would put it's xbox (devaluing the console) exclusives on win 10 is to incentivise people into getting win 10/using windows store to compete with steam. It's not a benefit at all for consumers because games bought from windows store can't be modded. PC gamers won't touch windows store because of that. /thread

Quoted for truth!

 



Libara said:
This is Vgc, Microsoft could cure cancer and still be criticised for it.

Why single them out when the same can be said for any of the big 3?



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method114 said:
b00moscone said:
I feel a chunk of people just want justification for buying their platform, and exclusives are the easiest way to do that.

To me it's not about saitisfaction it's about having more good games. The PS4 exclusives aren't great to me because no one else has them they're great because they are good games and I have the only console that can play that game. I also have the ability to play the other great multiplat games.

 

I agree with TS that multiplats is the  best solution everyone should get the chance to play these games. We don't though so if I have to choose I'll choose PS4. TS is basicalyl saying MS should be praised for having less good games avaliable to their consumers.

I mean, the satisfaction of having amazing games exclusive to that platform is what i was hinting at, but yes.

And it would be interesting if all games were multiplat. I'd imagine then the big 3 would then have to concentrate on their hardware and their user-interface perhaps to differentiate themselves from their competitors, as doing so with the games would of course be impossible. It would be interesting to see what each company would come up with.



 

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derpysquirtle64 said:
KLAMarine said:

I often come across the complaint that many XBox 1 games that would have otherwise been exclusives are also put on PC thus rendering them non-exclusives and I'm wondering why people complain?

Does a game being available on more than one platform not make it more readily available to people thus benefiting the consumer? Is the ability to play a game on more than one configuration not a good thing? PS4 and Switch exclusives can only be played on their respective platforms but with XBox1/PC, you have more choice.

Online gaming on PC is free last I checked so you don't even need to pay a subscription fee to play these games online. Microsoft undermines their own efforts to charge for online multiplayer by making their otherwise-XBox 1 exclusive games also available on PC.

Already got a gaming PC? Great! No need to buy an XBox 1 and we the consumers win but I cannot recall any time wherein Microsoft has received rightful praise for their pro-consumer policy of making their software available on XBox 1 AND PC rather than just locking their software to one box.

 

What's the deal with people complaining instead of praising?

One of the main problems here is that MS Play Anywhere program doesn't work like it should be. You still have a lot of differences between XB1 and PC versions of games. The majority of PA games doesn't have cross-play or cross-save. So, what's good in splitting the userbase between two platforms. When the program was announced it sounded good in theory but MS seems to have failed to achieve what they were expected to. Also, they release some games on Steam and this versions doesn't use XBL for online play at all splitting user base even further. Now between three different platforms. I think that people doesn't praise them because it all looks like MS is just being desperate for a quick buck instead of thinking about the future of their gaming platform.

I don't think I was discussing Play Anywhere in my opening post...

Aeolus451 said:
KLAMarine said:

Which is silly because the alternative, the game not being playable on PC AT ALL, is worse.

A game is a game regardless of whether or not it's exclusive.

When you say that, I think back to how some of the best-selling titles on 360 and PS3 were the same games. I also think of the exclusive games on the WiiU and yet the WiiU sold poorly.

Be that as it may, the alternative, X1 games not being playable on PC AT ALL, is worse.

Again, exclusive games are the most important aspect of what distinguishes each console from eachother because well... the point of consoles is to play video games. Desirable exclusive games are a major draw of gamers. Third party games help fill in the gaps between exclusives and they add further to a console's library but they are not the true draw to one particular console over another when they can play the same 3rd party games. The wii u's exclusive offerings sucked donkey balls and it sales reflected that. It's games and marketing were too focused on the smallest demographic of gamers. Having exclusives just for the sake of having them doesn't count for much with gamers. 

That last point of yours is just bonkers. How is "X1 games not being playable on PC AT ALL, is worse" when xbox fans can just play the games on the X1 and pc gamers won't touch the games on win 10 because they can't be modded? It defeats the point of the feature to consumers. 

Who really cares if X1 games are playable on win 10 or not. MS is only putting xbox exclusives on win 10 to draw more ppl to using windows store on win 10. It's in vain though because the consumers they're trying to convince are knowledgeable on this stuff. 

"Having exclusives just for the sake of having them doesn't count for much with gamers."

So what's so wrong with what would have been an exclusive X1 title being ported to PC?

"pc gamers won't touch the games on win 10 because they can't be modded?"

Just because a game can't be modded on Win 10 (which doesn't seem to be true according to https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/3itpdt/so_ive_heard_you_cant_mod_games_on_windows_10/ ) doesn't mean pc players won't give it some play time.

"Who really cares if X1 games are playable on win 10 or not."

Win 10 gamers.



Less reason to buy an xbox one. You want a console with great games, if all your games are also on another platform fair dos as you still have great games..... But without proper exclusives you are getting less



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