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Uhmmmm............................

okay?

I get that Nintendo has a track-record of not outselling the NES with their home consoles, but they still outsold it with the Wii, and if you include handhelds : Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, DS , and 3DS.

Sony has outsold the NES with literally EVERY CONSOLE they've made *except the vita*



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BraLoD said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

When you consider the market difference between 1985 and 2013, it's not really that impressive. It's like comparing revenue for movies and not adjusting for inflation. The NES selling 60 million units in the climate it launched in is like the PS4 selling 300 million units.

No it isn't anything like the PS4 selling 300M... what a random, senseless comparision.

Nintendo themselves could just once outsell the NES with another console after it.

So you're saying that selling 60 million consoles in today's market is the same as selling 60 million consoles in an era where the home console market had died, crashed and completely disapeared? Give me a break! lol

Just look at the market share difference. The NES was well over 90% at one point. They OWNED gaming in the 80's. In order for PS4 to do what NES did numbers wise, you'd have to add the sales of Wii U, Switch, Xbox One... then throw in mobile and handheld and still have it come out on top with 90% of the market. Now how many units do you really think that would be? 300 million is probably not nearly enough. 

That's what I am talking about. 60 million is not just 60 million. It's not nearly the same thing nor does it give the uneducated people a good idea of their successes. Nintendo selling 60 million in a market that didn't even exist is so much more dominant and impressve than selling 60 million today. 

I think the numbers should always be put into proper context.



AlfredoTurkey said:

When you consider the market difference between 1985 and 2013, it's not really that impressive. It's like comparing revenue for movies and not adjusting for inflation. The NES selling 60 million units in the climate it launched in is like the PS4 selling 300 million units.

One: That's the Lifetime sales of the NES's, the ps4 is still selling and actually at an increasing rate.

Two : Though the market has increased so has the competition, there's a handheld, mobile and pc market to contend with now.



AlfredoTurkey said:
BraLoD said:

No it isn't anything like the PS4 selling 300M... what a random, senseless comparision.

Nintendo themselves could just once outsell the NES with another console after it.

So you're saying that selling 60 million consoles in today's market is the same as selling 60 million consoles in an era where the home console market had died, crashed and completely disapeared? Give me a break! lol

Just look at the market share difference. The NES was well over 90% at one point. They OWNED gaming in the 80's. In order for PS4 to do what NES did numbers wise, you'd have to add the sales of Wii U, Switch, Xbox One... then throw in mobile and handheld and still have it come out on top with 90% of the market. Now how many units do you really think that would be? 300 million is probably not nearly enough. 

That's what I am talking about. 60 million is not just 60 million. It's not nearly the same thing nor does it give the uneducated people a good idea of their successes. Nintendo selling 60 million in a market that didn't even exist is so much more dominant and impressve than selling 60 million today that it's not even funny. 

Your trying  to  hard to downplay. 

 

Wiiu sold 14mill

Xbox  30?

Switch 4-6?

Ps4 60.

3ds 65?

 

Where do you see the 300milll sold stuff?

 

60 in this day  of age with the huge pc and mobile crowd ia amazing!!  Absolutely  groundbreaking  amazing. 



 

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AlfredoTurkey said:
Lawlight said:

Incorrect - market size is not like inflation at all. A market can shrink but inflation is always on the way up (it's not called deflation after all).

If there are 100 people interested in lemonade and you sell 5,000 cups of the stuff, that's much more impressive than selling 5,000 cups to a crowd of 5,000,000. 

The market is so large right now that you can't compare.

As several others have pointed out, your logic is ridiculous.



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Lawlight said:
John19 said:

Shipped doesn't equal sold-through

Thank you, Captain Obvious. 

? PS4 still hasn't outsold the NES, you said it has because it shipped more, you're comparing shipments to sold-through



John19 said:
Lawlight said:

Thank you, Captain Obvious. 

? PS4 still hasn't outsold the NES, you said it has because it shipped more, you're comparing shipments to sold-through

60.4 where sold through... At that whas june 11.



 

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xl-klaudkil said:
John19 said:

? PS4 still hasn't outsold the NES, you said it has because it shipped more, you're comparing shipments to sold-through

60.4 where sold through... At that whas june 11.

Yes, but NES sold 61.9 million, so as I said before PS4 had a little over a million to go but it was pretty much done. Lawlight said that PS4 surpassed NES in May because there's usually 2-3 million more PS4s shipped than what are sold-through. He was basically saying PS4 outsold NES because it shipped more, but shipments aren't the same as sold-through



NES mini counts as NES sales? xD