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Ljink96 said:
Lawlight said:

Of the 20 off of the top of your head, 6 of them are Mario games. And then you went on to add a few more with Mario spin-off characters but ok, let's see (all off the top of my head too):

Went out of my way to only include IPs from this gen and th previous one so stuff like Parapa, Tomba, Ape Escape, Legend of Dragoon, Medievil, etc, are not there. I did not count games of the same IP with different genre as a different IP like Killzone and Killzone: Liberation or LBP and LBP Karting. I did not count party games like Singstar or Buzz.

As you can tell - I love my list wars :)

This still is nothing, you're including one offs or games with only one game in the series. If I did that, for Nintendo it'd be an insane list. And again, each is still considered a different series the goal never said anything about new IP, I said show IP that matched Nintendo's. And your total still doesn't exceed mine... Journey is an Idie game, But if you insist to include 1 and dones...

3D Mario

2D Mario

Mario Kart

Paper Mario

Mario & Luigi

Mario Party

Zelda

Smash Bros

Pokemon

Donkey Kong

Kid Icarus

Yoshi, Kirby

Metroid

Pikmin

Animal Crossing

Xenoblade

F-Zero

Splatoon

Arms

Wario Ware

Chibi Robo

Wario Land

Punch Out

Fire Emblem

Pilot Wings

Wii Series

Golden Sun

Wave Race

Earthbound

Mario vs. Donkey Kong

Mo Series

Starfy

Mario Golf

Mario Tennis

Allstars Baseball

Sports in general

Luigi's Mansion

Picross

Rhythm Heaven

Star Fox

Tomodachi

Wars Series

Brain Age

1080

Balloon Fight

Box Boy

Custom Robo

Endless Ocean

Takamaru

Game & Watch

Dr. Mario

Mario Maker

3D Metroid Series (Prime)

Sin & Punishment

Star Tropics

Style Savvy

Alcahest

Devil World

Mach Rider

Shin Onigashima

Ice Climber

Duck Hunt...

And yeah, I could keep this going for about 100 more...barely scratched the surface. Nintendo got into the game 12 years ahead of Sony, they have to have something to show for it. I don't think we should do this here, one of us is bound to get banned. Send me your list on my Wall or something if you wanna keep going. I kinda guarantee I'll win. And Make sure the games are develooped by Sony or one of their teams, not indie, multiplat, etc.

Edit: And it's not always necessarily about quantity, it's quality too that makes the 1st party. Look at how high Nintendo's games are scored above Sony's first party. No contest there either

Challenge accepted. I will go deep into Sony's IPs if you wish, since you listed so many Nintendo IPs that I've never heard of before. Watch this space.

As for quality, notice how Sony is the console with the highest number of games in GotY awards? Like last year, Uncharted 4 was the big winner but The Last Guardian won a lot too. It's safe to say Sony makes games that are more applauded - like SM Galaxy 2 - highest rated game in 2010 and still only won a handful of GotY awards more than Heavy Rain while RDR and Mass Effect 2 cleaned up house.



I don't know, what do you expect? It will be a black box with a lot of hardware inside of it. Basically the same as the PS4, just a lil' faster.

People will get excited anyway. They will all be like "hooray, finally native 4K with 60 fps!". Only to be disappointed later, because even at launch most games won't hit that mark. As the generation goes on, more and more games will fall below 4K with 30 fps, but don't you worry! The PS5 Pro will be there to save you... at least in most games... if you're ok with 30 fps. Yai!

Sony sure as hell would like to copy Nintendo's approach. Problem is they chose x86 and that suff is absolute bullcrap for portable machines. So sorry, you won't see a portable PS4. Not even a Vita 2, because Sony isn't that crazy these days. If Krazy Ken was still in charge, it would be a different story. But he isn't.



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SvennoJ said:
Mr Puggsly said:
I'm keeping my expectations kinda low if its aiming for $399. But it should be better than Scorpio if its 3 or 4 years from now.

PS4 Pro was very underwhelming for the price and 3 years later.

PS4 Pro is hampered by having to be 100% hardware compatible with the base ps4. Plus it's a niche machine which is not a driving force to sell more software and must make its own money back in sales. That's the problem with incremental hardware, you can't simply put the best stuff of the time together and sell it at a slight loss expecting to make it back in software and subscriptions. A lot of people buying these upgrades wouldn't change their buying habits anyway. They might actually even buy less as they just spend the money on a hardware upgrade.

Scorpio is just as underwhelming for its price and 4 years later. It's $100 more than original xbox one without kinect, and equal or only slightly bigger difference than there was between XBox One and base ps4. And it's still 5 months before it even releases.

A clean break with new hardware is needed. Yet this time software BC should be easier unless the cpu clockspeeds of next gen are lower again. (Or they could emulate the base versions instead of pro/scorpio enhancements)

It seems to me PS4 Pro is hampered down by price. They wanted to hit $399 so that's what you got. A fairly modest upgrade to the CPU and GPU.

I could argue people buying premium hardware buy more games. I mean they're likely to be more avid gamers.

Scorpio is not underwhelming for a mid gen upgrade. It made a more significant boost to everything and that was the plan from the start. They just waited a year longer to release it. Better CPU, much better GPU, and the additional RAM is very significant for better textures, effects, and will help performance. The PS4 Pro seems like it was too focused on resolution while the additional RAM and custom CPU in X1X is gonna allow for a lot more.

I don't think BC will be an issue if they stick to the same architecture (x86).



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Mr Puggsly said:
SvennoJ said:

PS4 Pro is hampered by having to be 100% hardware compatible with the base ps4. Plus it's a niche machine which is not a driving force to sell more software and must make its own money back in sales. That's the problem with incremental hardware, you can't simply put the best stuff of the time together and sell it at a slight loss expecting to make it back in software and subscriptions. A lot of people buying these upgrades wouldn't change their buying habits anyway. They might actually even buy less as they just spend the money on a hardware upgrade.

Scorpio is just as underwhelming for its price and 4 years later. It's $100 more than original xbox one without kinect, and equal or only slightly bigger difference than there was between XBox One and base ps4. And it's still 5 months before it even releases.

A clean break with new hardware is needed. Yet this time software BC should be easier unless the cpu clockspeeds of next gen are lower again. (Or they could emulate the base versions instead of pro/scorpio enhancements)

It seems to me PS4 Pro is hampered down by price. They wanted to hit $399 so that's what you got. A fairly modest upgrade to the CPU and GPU.

I could argue people buying premium hardware buy more games. I mean they're likely to be more avid gamers.

Scorpio is not underwhelming for a mid gen upgrade. It made a more significant boost to everything and that was the plan from the start. They just waited a year longer to release it. Better CPU, much better GPU, and the additional RAM is very significant for better textures, effects, and will help performance. The PS4 Pro seems like it was too focused on resolution while the additional RAM and custom CPU in X1X is gonna allow for a lot more.

I don't think BC will be an issue if they stick to the same architecture (x86).

Ah you meant it's underwhelming because of the price.

A year later and $100 more, they're about the same upgrade for value. We'll see whether the X1X is actually going to get a lot more. It will be the best version but I guess we'll need DF again to point out the differences.



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I really hope there isn't a unique selling point like the Switch. I like my console to be a console, it sits close to the TV and I can just sit back, chill out and play some video games. I don't give a shit about taking it outside or whatever. When I go out, I go out to have a drink with mates or do some mountain biking or bouldering or for a days hiking or simply to go see my parents, I have no interest in bringing gaming out doors with me.



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Let's do this:

1. Uncharted

2. Uncharted: Fight For Fortune (because apparently a different genre means a new IP)

3. Killzone

4. Killzone: Liberation

5. LittleBigPlanet

6. LittleBigPlanet Karting

7. God of War

8. Fat Princess

9. Tearaway

10. Horizon: Zero Dawn

11. Sly Cooper

12. Resistance

13. Jak & Daxter

14. Ratchet & Clank

15. Gravity Rush

16. Gran Turismo

17. Motorstorm

18. Wipeout

19. DriveClub

20. The Last of Us

21. Syphon Filter

22. SOCOM

23. inFamous

24. Loco Roco

25. Patapon



51. Demon's Souls

52. Bloodborne

53. Legend of Dragoon

54. Arc The Lad

55. Dark Cloud

56. Knack

57. Puppeteer

58. Rain

59. Everybody's Golf

60. The Last Guy

61. Soul Sacrifice

62. Freedom Wars

63. Destiny of Spirits

64. Siren

65. Tokyo Jungle

66. Days Gone

67. The Order: 1886

68. Eyetoy / Eyepet

69. Sound Shapes

70. The Unfinished Swan

71. Farpoint

72. Wonderbook

73. Sorcery

74. Dreams

75. Hidden Agendas



26. flower

27. Journey

28. Resogun

29. Super Stardust

30. Modnation Racers

31. Twisted Metal

32. PlayStation Move Heroes

33. PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

34. Heavy Rain

35. Beyond: Two Souls

36. Detroit: Become Human

37. Tomba

38. Ape Escape

39. Ico

40. Shadow of the Colossus

41. The Last Guardian

42. Singstar

43. Buzz!

44. Dead Nation

45. Alienation

46. Until Dawn

47. Matterfall

48. Medievil

49. Mark of Cri

50. Sports Champion