Listen, if you're not going to back up your claims, don't make them. It's not my fault you have two completely different arguments I made about similar but different things confused in your head.

ok, maybe he didnt say they couldn't happen but he certainly said they wouldn't happen.

You're right,I did say they wouldn't happen. If you go back and read my posts, I said it wouldn't happen because I didn't think they'd be properly supported by the vast majority of developers unless they were forced to (which would piss them off, and lead to an assload of work), and as result, I didn't think it would sell very well.

Turns out I was right about pretty much everything regarding the PS4 Pro except the PS4 Pro hitting the shelves. That's a far cry from saying it was "impossible".

so in the end you were still wrong? Got it

Never claimed to have a crystal ball or the ability to predict the future. Sony took a gamble I didn't think they would, and you want to act like this is some kind of victory or something? My arguments for why I thought they wouldn't were valid. We're seeing those come to fruition with every passing month. Sony decided to do it despite my arguments as to why they shouldn't. So far, it appears that it hasn't really paid off for them, and I wouldn't be surprised if Sony considers the experiment a failure and decides not to do it again in future consoles.


I mean if you really want to act like you're on some highground or something, then you've got yourself a whole stack of shit sandwiches to eat by your own standards. Get off your high horse.

What are you going on about?

Soundwave asked if you were the person who said consoles with multiple hardware configurations wouldnt happen.

I replied saying that you were that person.

A little back and forth exchange happened about whether or not you said that.

A few posts later you admitted to saying that and listed off reasons why you said that.

My last post is saying it doesnt matter if your reasons are good, a wrong prediction is a wrong prediction.

Basically this entire exchange happened because you got offended that i answered a question about you for Soudwave. Please explain how im coming off as being victorious or acting like i never have made poor predictions?

Again, you're twisting my argument that I didn;t think Sony would release a PS4 with additional performance into responding that I was the guy that said "a Nintendo system with multiple performance modes was never, ever going to happen because programmers would not be able to optimize their games (ditto for a PS4 Pro and Scorpio)?"

First of all, that sentence doesn't make any sense because the PS4 Pro/Scorpio and the Switch haven't implemented the same solution at all - so it's not "ditto" between one and the other and I have never treated them as the same.  Sony's solution is two different hardware specifications on two different, seperate devices. Nintendo's solution is two different operating modes on the same device. Hardware specifications and operating modes are two completely different things. The two might seem similar but from a game development point of view are dramatically different problems to solve. Some how Soundwave mangled it all up into one argument against both platforms for wrong reasons.

Let's be clear. I have never claimed anything that Soundwave asked if I claimed.

I never said "a Nintendo system with multiple performance modes was never going to happen". I said a Nintendo system with different hardware configurations and different control schemes was never going to happen. There is a vast difference between the two, and the one I said would never happen still has not happened. The PSP technically has had multiple performance modes. I have personally set the clock rate in my modded PSP. So has other Nintendo handhelds in the past. It makes no sense whatsoever for me to claim such a thing, and that's because I didn't.

I also have never said  programmers would not be able to optimize their games" for any reason for any platform, ever. I did however, say that developers couldn't optimize their games as well on PS4/Xbox if they had to support multiple specifications vs just supporting the base consoles since decision trees about hardware specifcations would need to be littered throughout the engine where none had previously existed that would not only bloat it's memory footprint but slow down the rate at which it could process game data . This is verifiably true. All PS4 games that support the PS4 pro in any way run a little bit worse on the PS4 as a result. Again, this is a fact. Don't take my word for it. I thought if Sony were to make such a console, they would force developers to make use of the additional hardware by doing things like requiring developers to reach certain performance objectives like a minimum framerate or resolution (among other possible things), since hey, if the'yre making a more powerful PS4, they should want this thing to run all PS4 games noticably better than it's regular PS4 counterpart. This would undoubtedly have been weeks of man hours of extra work. However, since Sony essentially just allowed developers to effectvely treat the PS4 Pro like a PS4, and the PS4 Pro was built in such a way that it could effectively emulate the operating mode of the PS4, many of my concerns for such a console were solved - at the cost of releasing a beefed up console that effectively operates as a regular PS4 for most games both old and new, making it kinda pointless to begin with.

My bad on falsely assuming that they would actually require devs use that additional power, even though I was actually right on why they didn't.

Now you're trying to shove something I was techncially wrong about in my face for reasons that actually have nothing to do with what Soundwave asked me if I said as if that proves a point over what I did or didn't say. Soundwave fucked up. You decided to double down on it, and now it appears you're trying to double down again. Enough is enough. You're uncategorically wrong about what I said. Full stop. Now just let it go and move on.

exactly!!

Ultra Sun/Moon, agh the designs are awful. . . hopefully a cool story can make these better than the original Sun/Moon

a Pokken port is fine, way for easy cash since not many had access on the original

just a bit better than the mobile focused direct I was expecting lol