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bubblegamer said:
Jumpin said:

What about an interracial scene, would you say that people who look away out of digust during a scene where a black man is kissing a white woman are not racist?

lol this question answers it all!

Haha, yeah. That said, I know that I am a bit homophobic based on that... and also a little "fatphobic" if that is a word. Two things I am not happy about, but two things that are culturally induced. And also, have been getting over that with time, I would say I am about 5-10% as homophobic as I was when I was a teenager, 1/10th or 1/20th in other words. As above stated, I hold no hatred, just a bit of disgust for it that is completely involuntary, it is like being brainwashed.

Commenting on some above stuff:

Blaming religious culture is short-changing the issue, and not even close to accurate; it is mostly the accepted answer because it is fashionable to blame things on religion. Homophobia also exists, perhaps even more strongly, in non-religious culture; and in nations who never had a homophobic religious culture.

I grew up in a culture where the vast majority of people were non-religious. When I was a kid and a teenager, what was considered the most offensive insult was to be called gay. It was the synonymous with being called unmanly, wimpy, queer/weird, and effeminiate, wrapped all in one. Ironically, it was usually the few religious kids who were often the target of being called gay. It is largely about how most cultures of masculinity shape people, and because homosexuality is comparitively rare to heterosexuality.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

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Aeolus451 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

The op is not homophobe but you are borderline

No, I'm not. Reread what I wrote. You're likely misunderstanding me. I'm completely fine with homosexuals but not with everything they do especially when they're trying to push boundaries by doing things to get a rise out of people. On the flip side of this. if a straight couple or people went into an area with alot of gay, started making out or going than that in front of everyone to get a rise out. It's just as disgusting as when gay people do that to straight people. 

Yet you feel a gay couple kissing is a provocation, somehow you feel threatened, that irrational feelling is a trace of homophobia.



VGPolyglot said:
vivster said:

It's not like you can control what makes you nauseous or not. It's like phobias, what you like and what you don't like is completely irrational.

You can condition yourself to  tolerate it, much like how he's been conditioned to have a negative reaction to it.

The fuck? Next thing you're telling me is that you can condition yourself to not be gay. It's called irrational for a reason. That means there is not logical reason to it.

And why should someone try to condition himself to like something he doesn't like? I don't like smoking but hell no will I try to condition myself to like it. What the fuck is it to you what someone likes and not?

I don't like interracial porn, should I fuck a black woman now to "heal" myself so I can be accepted by you? The fuck.



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vivster said:
VGPolyglot said:

You can condition yourself to  tolerate it, much like how he's been conditioned to have a negative reaction to it.

The fuck? Next thing you're telling me is that you can condition yourself to not be gay. It's called irrational for a reason. That means there is not logical reason to it.

And why should someone try to condition himself to like something he doesn't like? I don't like smoking but hell no will I try to condition myself to like it. What the fuck is it to you what someone likes and not?

I don't like interracial porn, should I fuck a black woman now to "heal" myself so I can be accepted by you? The fuck.

I'm not saying to condition yourself to like it, I'm saying condition yourself to not have a negative reaction to it. And yes, if you watch enough interracial porn, you should eventually become desensitized to it. How do you think I desensitized myself from homoseuxuality? By watching gay porn.



Goodnightmoon said:
Aeolus451 said:

No, I'm not. Reread what I wrote. You're likely misunderstanding me. I'm completely fine with homosexuals but not with everything they do especially when they're trying to push boundaries by doing things to get a rise out of people. On the flip side of this. if a straight couple or people went into an area with alot of gay, started making out or going than that in front of everyone to get a rise out. It's just as disgusting as when gay people do that to straight people. 

Yet you feel a gay couple kissing is a provocation, somehow you feel threatened, that irrational feelling is a trace of homophobia.

What are you talking about? Reread what I wrote or get better at reading comprehension. 



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Aeolus451 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yet you feel a gay couple kissing is a provocation, somehow you feel threatened, that irrational feelling is a trace of homophobia.

What are you talking about? Reread what I wrote or get better at reading comprehension. 

Is not what you say, is what you suggest. Somewhow a gay couple kissing on a non-gay environment is automatically a call for attention.



VGPolyglot said:
vivster said:

The fuck? Next thing you're telling me is that you can condition yourself to not be gay. It's called irrational for a reason. That means there is not logical reason to it.

And why should someone try to condition himself to like something he doesn't like? I don't like smoking but hell no will I try to condition myself to like it. What the fuck is it to you what someone likes and not?

I don't like interracial porn, should I fuck a black woman now to "heal" myself so I can be accepted by you? The fuck.

I'm not saying to condition yourself to like it, I'm saying condition yourself to not have a negative reaction to it. And yes, if you watch enough interracial porn, you should eventually become desensitized to it. How do you think I desensitized myself from homoseuxuality? By watching gay porn.

And now what? Why would I even want to desensitize myself? I desensitized myself to a lot of things but that was because I wanted to or because it happened naturally. There are a lot of things I don't want to be desensitized about.

If someone does not like watching gay people having sex then that's fine. There is no moral obligation to being able to watch it. You say it as if it somehow makes someone a worse person.



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vivster said:
VGPolyglot said:

I'm not saying to condition yourself to like it, I'm saying condition yourself to not have a negative reaction to it. And yes, if you watch enough interracial porn, you should eventually become desensitized to it. How do you think I desensitized myself from homoseuxuality? By watching gay porn.

And now what? Why would I even want to desensitize myself? I desensitized myself to a lot of things but that was because I wanted to or because it happened naturally. There are a lot of things I don't want to be desensitized about.

Well, why wouldn't you want to be desensizited to it? It's not it's violence or drug use, there's no need to be sensitive towards it, as it's not something dangerous.



Locknuts said:

I don't think this is something that I've been taught to find disgusting, I think it's built into me (born this way).

It could be because it's not what you've been taught to be normal either. It violates what you believe to be normal so strongly that you have a strong reaction to it. Or not. This is all my speculation and I don't know if it's the actual reason.



Goodnightmoon said:
Aeolus451 said:

What are you talking about? Reread what I wrote or get better at reading comprehension. 

Is not what you say, is what you suggest. Somewhow a gay couple kissing on a non-gay environment is automatically a call for attention.

Did I say it was? Again, go read what I wrote instead of skimming over it. It's obvious you're misunderstanding me. If you're gonna keep instant replying about what I posted without actually reading what I wrote then just leave me alone. I don't got time for someone being asinine.