Pyro as Bill said:
potato_hamster said:
That seems odd considering there is a mic built into my PS4's camera, that I can and have used for voice chat. But besides that, my PS4 shipped with a shitty little earbud microphone thing that plugged into the controller, meaning you actually don't need to buy any headset at all to use voicechat out of the box.
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And that's great if only one person is playing but what about 2P/groups going online to play?
A voice chat solution that's a legacy from PC gaming might be good for Sony/MS's systems but it's not really suited to Switch. Headsets aren't exactly the best idea if your focus is local multiplayer, motion control and portability are they?
If only there was some sort of widely available, portable device capable of voice chat that solved these problems (headset optional) and didn't cost $300/gen. Imagine if it let you make play appointments or allowed cross console chat so you never lost your friends list when you/they change systems or stop playing. Add in parental controls to reduce the chance of your kids playing camera games with some dirty old man and you'd have a far better online setup than what's currently available,imo.
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For that, like I said, you just need the PS4's camera. It has a built in microphone array. It costs $60. They offered similar cameras with built in microphone arrays on the PS3, and the PS2. You don't need headsets for multi-player voice chat with Playstation. Never have.
Also, who said anything about $300 per gen for voice chat? An iPhone's or samsung galaxy's ear buds will work with your PS4. Here you are arguing it's ridiculous for people to go out and spend $30 (The Tritton Kama is decent, and you can get even better earbud solutions for that price), per player for a PS4 headset that's probably backwards compatible with PS3 and Vita as well, when that's the Worst case scenario. As I said, the PS4's camera has a microphone array for this very purpose and doesn't cost anywhere close to $300.
But still, here you are, haing absolutely no issue with Nintendo requiring people to go get a smartphone just to use voicechat while accusing Sony/MS of forcing their users into buying expensive headsets, which is especially ironic considering the earbuds that likely come with that required smartphone can also be used as a PS4 headset without much issue. And why are you assuming that you won't need a new smartphone per generation? Apple and Samsung have a very bad habit of making it difficult for applications to support both new and older hardware. For example, the Apple's own Apple store app is currently only supported on iPhone 5s or later devices, meaning you might not be able to use your iPhone to buy a new iPhone. It's entirely plausible Nintendo's voice chat app won't support smart phones that are more than 3-4 years old, and will update later with a feature that makes it incompatible with smartphones it might currently support. There's no guarantee you won't have to upgrade your phone in order to keep using voice chat on your Switch. But for some strange reason I'm pretty sure my PS4's camera will always be supported by my PS4.
Things like appointments or cross-console chat are features that can be added by Sony/MS without the need of addtional hardware, and I have to ask if you are familiar with Sony/MS's online system if you're bragging about not losing your friends list if your device died, or your friends stopped playing. See, that's only something Nintendo users have an issue with. I have the same friends list on my PSN account that's connected to my PS3, PS4, Vita and my Playstation smartphone app, which allows me to message any one on my friends list from any one of those devices. Microsoft has a similar system with Xbox, where you can chat with people on Xbox One and Xbox 360 from your PC and smartphone. Again, all of these things you're bragging about can be done within the console itself if Nintendo just implemented a decent online infrastructure. There is zero need to use a smartphone to accomplish these things at all.