that's true, I edited the thread. I'm talking about the trend of people saying stuff like that because they're edgy. They always have the same opinion like The last of us is a cinematic experience breath of the wild is not that great because your weapons break, spoiler alert: they never played the game, they're following the trend. and Like pastro243 said, you don't see it with games that are not "big and popular" you see it with big games.

-I find that with Zelda BOTW people tend to bring up the Witcher 3 alot to remark as to why its not as great as it is. Whether its the gameplay, weapons breaking or conversational trees. Most of those guys forget anyway that Zelda is at the tipping point of being an RPG, but actually isnt.

The few last of us haters sometimes tend to bring up the fact that the game is highly cinematic, but I always tell them to play the game on the highest difficulty. That tends to shut them up. If that doesnt shut them up then multiplayer generally does. Naughty Dog games are no slouch in the gameplay department.

I dont hear many people talking about odyssey or Red Dead though in a negative light. You cant find a better sole platformer than Mario Odyssey and with Red Dead you probably wont find many open world games that will stop what Read Dead has planned...not even BOTW.

Which is awesome, in my opinion.  It would suck if we all liked the same thing.  Speaking as someone who likes a bunch of flawed games and dislikes a lot of the mega-franchises, I never want to see quirky content fade away in favor of trying to nail down perfect formulas.  

Whenever a new Final Fantasy game comes out, I always say that it's time for millions of people who don't play Japanese RPGs to buy a Japanese RPG and then complain about Japanese RPGs.

That's the price of massive sales.  I'm sure Square will gladly take that trade-off.

On the other hand, most of the people who buy a game like Persona like games like Persona.

Destiny 2 since the first is rather mediocre.
The Last of Us 2 since the first didn't play very well past a average TPS and some of the worst AI ever.

people compare zelda to those games cause sadly we don't have action adventure games with the scope of breath of the wild, and breath of the wild is even bigger than a lot of rpgs. So, if we compare breath of the wild with recent action adventure games like Mad max, shadow of mordor and Assassin's Creed, it's not a fair fight.

We need to compare the game with the bigger games out there and sadly the bigger games are in a different genre. (when I say bigger I mean everything not just the world) And Breath of the wild has more rpg elements than a lot of rpgs, but it's an action adventure game, it has been like that forever and that's why it's hard to compare zelda with other games because we don't have many games that mix so many gameplay elements.

It definitely is, yeah. People should embrace critism directed at the things they like, not dismiss it. The day a game immune to critism releases is the day variety dies. 

I think I will go for Destiny 2.... I think that has a great chance of being just ok.

RDR2 is going to be awesome...and so will LOU2.

I didn't like the first Red Dead and I have zero interest in platformers, Mario or otherwise.  Popular or not has nothing to do with it.  Red Dead I was pretty excited about and bought the GOTY edition and I've owned three different Mario games without ever finishing a single one.  They just did not end up being to my tastes and I have no problem with other people loving them.

"TLOU 2 Has 0 gameplay."

I can see it now..

Splatoon 2 and TLoU2, we already see the "it's just a wii u port" everywhere