I feel like this gen is so obsessed with specs and mid-gen upgrades that it has forgotten the important thing. Games.
The ps4 library only really started getting good late last and early this year. Before that we had some bright spots in Bloodborne and Witcher 3, but it had been a pretty unremarkable gen geameswise. Now, lets give these console some breathing room. Let the really good games flow in.

Yeah, I'm sayin I hope we don't see a Ps4 successor until holydays 2020.

Well, they will react, but it'll only be with a Pro price cut.  Though, I guess that would have happened this year, anyway.  As far as the PS5 goes, I agree they won't have to react, now.  Leaks will just happen as they normally do.

I don't think releasing the PS5 6 years after the PS4 is exactly panicing.  That's just more in line with other gens. 

Was likely to happen whether or not Scorpio released this year. 

The PS4 had a GPU based more or less off the Pitcairn chip because it fit its power constraints - that is, around 125W. The PS5 won't include a 250W GPU as the Vega 10 chip is going to be. In fact, it seems the Scorpio is quite strechting it as far as 14/16 nm GPUs and their power consumption are concerned. It is going to be as huge and demanding as the original PS3 or X360 SKUs, or more.

It is almost out of question it uses the same manufacturing architecture as the Scorpio if it is going to be more powerful. Yeah, it could have a better CPU and a newer GPU architecture, but that wouldn't make it too different to the Scorpio, it would be like X360 and PS3 all over again. So, it would need at least one die shrink that has been tested and proven on the market to significantly (33% to 100%) improve on what the Scorpio offers on graphics. Maybe one will be ready by the end of 2019. Maybe it won't.

Hopefully no time soon... i dont wanna hear any leaks about a PS5 until at least 2019.

2019 is the most early release I could imagine for Playstation 5. But it's most likely going to be 2020.

My thoughts exactly, we are finally starting to get great games left and right and people are already thinking (and maybe wishing?) for a next gen leak... come on! lets get at least 3 more years of great games (the rest of 2017, 2018 and 2019) before we start getting any leaks of next gen hardware...

Also the Pro and Scorpio are called MID-GEN upgrades for a reason, enfasis on MID... so lets hope we have another 3 to 4 years left of this gen because so far while we have gotten some great games already, it is NOWHERE NEAR close to the output of games of last gen, like take Naughty Dog for example they put out Uncharted 1, 2, 3 and TLOU in ONE generation and right now they just somewhat recently put out their first game this gen and just recently announced their second game, same goes for From Software and many other studios who havent even put out half the amount of games they put out last gen this gen.

at least 2 years.... i think ps4 is something for +2020

I think we will hear rumours about new PlayStation hardware this year, but it won't be PS5. More likely to see PS4 Phone, PS4 Handheld, and a PS4 Premium before PS5 arrives around 2022 - 2024.

Even if Sony does decide to go with the PS5 branding at 7nm, I don't see it happening until 2020 if they stick with AMD. They will want to use a Navi based GPU at a minimum, Vega is not going to be a good foundation for a whole new generation.

Personally, I still hope both Sony and Microsoft stick to the current hardware revisions for one more round. A system with a 3GHz CPU, and a 10 - 12TFLOP GPU, with 16GB of RAM would be perfect with the current architecture at 7nm. Let next gen be a huge leap.

Yea I don't see anything happening before 2020 at the earliest but the question is, what CPU will it have? Lets see if we can theorize some of this...

So the ps4 launched with jaguar cores back in 2013. If we assume the ps5 will launch in 2020, lets how the jaguar CPUs perform against the high end AMD cpus from 3 years prior to 2013.

Correct me if I am wrong but as far as PC jaguar cores go, all I could find are the AMD Kambini cores (A6 5200).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/kabini-a4-5000-review,3518-2.html

So if we take those and benchmark against say, the AMD phenom series which came out in 2009, here are the benchmarks:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1055T-vs-AMD-A6-5200-APU/2003vsm4574

So more or less, the 2ghz Jaguar cores lose pretty handly to the AMD phenom 2 CPUs and the CPU isn't even the best phenom 2 u could get. The issue with this benchmark however is that A6 5200 is only a quad core while the one inside the ps4 is an 8 core.

However, I would keep my expectations in check before assuming the ps5 or the xbox 2 will have a Ryzen 1700 inside it... I will wait for some more AMD CPUs to come out before figuring out which ones the ps5/x2 will have.