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TomaTito said:
Ganoncrotch said:

The games are priced higher because Nintendo are trying to see if they can sell them at a higher cost as each title on the Switch is effectively both a home console game sale and a portable sale, so things like New Super Mario Brothers Switch is only going to be one version for Nintendo this generation rather than both on the 3ds and Wii/U which made them a ton of extra cash, they're now selling the games at the cost of around 1.5x the normal game cost because they are effectively 2 different games in the same platform.

They should be priced as WiiU titles were. Nintendo's development time won't be split between handheld and home console, so they can churn out more titles rather than juggle between the different platforms. They just need to make at least one of each series and expand further into their catalogue.

This would only be the case if something took exactly the same lenght of time start to finish on 2 platforms, but obviously the 3DS and Wii-U versions of New Super Mario Brothers are all based on upgraded versions of the DS game and ideas, so it's not like a new game from the ground up on the later machines, as such sales of a game like this on a platform which is both portable and home console is eating a sale of the same game on that different platform in Nintendos eyes/wallets.



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it is sort of questionable, as flashdrives are getting cheaper and cheaper as time passes.

And certainly it wouldn't logically equate to a $10 price change. maybe a few dollars.

Make no mistake, this is an exaggerated story. There is no possible way that the difference in production cost of physical media from discs to (essentially) DS carts would be justification in charging $10 more.

This is just balogney and an excuse some developers might be throwing out to justifiy why they are upcharging on the system. Make no mistake- any excuse people can try to convince you of as far as why they're charging more- they'll make it. Not shocking too, if they're making disc based versions of their games on 3 platforms (Xbox , Playstation, PC), then its pretty easy for them to then say "omg we're charging more because the other version is a pain for us to make (cartridges).

I don't buy it for a second. Again, it might be marginally more expensive. But this isn't a giant cartridge like back in the day. Small flashdrives are cheap asf to make these days and have been projected to become cheaper to manufacture than discs in not too long 

 

but again, a few minutes of research will indicate that flashdrives are marginally, if at all, more expensive at this point. They've become smaller and manufactured in higher amounts than ever before. 



TomaTito said:
JRPGfan said:

http://www.looper.com/48766/cartridges-driving-cost-nintendo-switch-games/

That source is the same one my article used, Eurogamer, not an official statement just anonymous tips.

d21lewis said:

*cough* bullshit *cough*

As others may have mentioned, the Switch isn't the first console to use cartridges. When it comes to portable games, carts never stopped. Nintendo is my favorite company (it's a love/hate thing) but they sold just admit it's because "We want to make money."

If I were third party, I'd release my games digitally for cheap and then go with a physical release months later. See if my $20-$40 digital game gets a huge mark up when it goes retail. I doubt it.

I would do the same. Release it digitally since Switch memory cards are standard and cheaply expandable.

Afterwards release the retail GOTY with DLC or make a special edition for collectors and fans.

Double launch, double the attention, double the marketing, everyone wins?

Eurogamer vet's its sources.

When it has 5 differnt verifed sources all saying the same thing... theres basically no way its not true.

"unnamed sources" = we know them, trust them, wont say who.

"anonymous tips" = we have no idea who, but someone said such and such.

 

There is a differnce. Eurogamer are calling them "unnamed sources" (to us the listeners) (doesnt mean they dont know them).

So you shouldnt call it "anonymous tips" :p



JRPGfan said:
TomaTito said:

That source is the same one my article used, Eurogamer, not an official statement just anonymous tips.

I would do the same. Release it digitally since Switch memory cards are standard and cheaply expandable.

Afterwards release the retail GOTY with DLC or make a special edition for collectors and fans.

Double launch, double the attention, double the marketing, everyone wins?

Eurogamer vet's its sources.

When it has 5 differnt verifed sources all saying the same thing... theres basically no way its not true.

"unnamed sources" = we know them, trust them, wont say who.

"anonymous tips" = we have no idea who, but someone said such and such.

 

There is a differnce.

Eurogamer wrote "we've heard that...

Would they phrase it like that if they have 5 different verifed sources for that claim?



Conina said:
JRPGfan said:

Eurogamer vet's its sources.

When it has 5 differnt verifed sources all saying the same thing... theres basically no way its not true.

"unnamed sources" = we know them, trust them, wont say who.

"anonymous tips" = we have no idea who, but someone said such and such.

 

There is a differnce.

Eurogamer wrote "we've heard that...

Would they phrase it like that if they have 5 different verifed sources for that claim?

Yes they would.

*edit: Not sure where I got "5" from... thought I saw it in the article... apparently it just says a few. My bad.



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SegataSanshiro said:
Shootdatrupee said:

Saw a similar point being made in regards to price difference on reddit, and the reply was to consider that there may be thousands of places manufacturing blu-rays for every one place making NS cartridges, thus making it more difficult to keep prices lower or something...

Read above your post. I gave you the exact cost. Nintendo is working with Macronix,same as 3DS and DS. Blu Ray os 2 dollars. MASK ROM cost a whopping 2.50.

The numbers look small, but that whopping 50 cent increase represents a 25% increase in cost.



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JOKA_ said:
SegataSanshiro said:

Read above your post. I gave you the exact cost. Nintendo is working with Macronix,same as 3DS and DS. Blu Ray os 2 dollars. MASK ROM cost a whopping 2.50.

The numbers look small, but that whopping 50 cent increase represents a 25% increase in cost.

This is a meaningless usage of a percentage. The costs of producing a video game are much greater than the costs of production for the distribution medium. There are retail costs, licensing costs, and of course the costs of development. The final price of the game reflects all of this. 



sc94597 said:
JOKA_ said:

The numbers look small, but that whopping 50 cent increase represents a 25% increase in cost.

This is a meaningless usage of a percentage. The costs of producing a video game are much greater than the costs of production for the distribution medium. There are retail costs, licensing costs, and of course the costs of development. The final price of the game reflects all of this. 

I'm not trying to say its would be a 25% cost increase in the whole game, just in that particular line item. I don't even know if his numbers are right. Just trying to point out at that a 50 cent increase over 2 dollars seems small, but is actually a decently large percentage increase.



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Jranation said:
monocle_layton said:
This is why digital stores need to start changing. What if I want RIME digitally? No reason I should be paying more

Right!  I dont get why digital stuff are the same price or even more expensive than physical stuff. 

Get use to it. It was all a lie from day one. They were NEVER going to pass any savings on to us and they only said that to get people to buy into digital/streaming and to also give up a huge chunk of our consumer rights. These businessmen don't care about us. They want more for them and less for you. The idea that they can sell us an invisible "file" over the internet which we can never resell probably gives them all raging boners.



SegataSanshiro said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
Had someone say Sony innovating with CD didn't matter because now everyone would go back to carts. I don't see it as the blurays get higher capacity and carts stay expensive due to the many parts.

Um what? Sony was FAR from the first CD based system. It was about the umpteenth console to do it. Turbo CD was in 1988. They did not "innovate" with CD Rom pn PS1. Shitload of systems used it before PS1.

if we're gonna give Nintendo credit for motion controls even though those were done before, gotta give credit to playstation.  What you're suggesting is like saying virtual boy was the first VR system.



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