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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
this is such a horror... of course it has to stop, it's 2017 we live in

I thought the main reason was for the wool and not for eating? maybe I'm wrong

I won't criticize the fact that seal are killed for food, if they are for food, but the cruelty of how they are killed (hit with a club on the head and suffer in their own blood until)

I'm sure many do it as hobby, cause they simply enjoy violence, and this is legal violence :'(

It is. That's why they're hunted, not mainly because of food. Perhaps it could be more acceptable if they weren't clubbed like they were flies on the wall. But still it's sick! And yes it's horrible it's legal.



 

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OdinHades said:
It's always problematic when someone wants to judge other people from a whole other culture. Yes, people eat seals and it's totally normal for them. There are also parts in the world where people indeed eat cats and dogs. Meanwhile Indian people look with disgust at the west and just can't get their head around why people here eat cows.

We just shouldn't judge about the culture from other places, we have no right to do that.

And same thing with people who eat cats and dogs. They can eat other foods instead. It's weird, sick, and satanic. Well, they're different cause that's for spiritual and religious reasons. If I'm wrong, they love cows, and honor them. We don't honor cats and dogs and seals because they're religious, we honor them because they're part of the family and just as smart if not smarter than most people.



 

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FIT_Gamer said:
Ps3 said:

Sorry! But... I think it's a cruel and horrible thing. And what's their excuse for clubbing? Food? Sorry, but eating a seal is like eating siht and is totally weird! For sport? Sorry, but that's some kind of satanic stuff. And 3 if you support or seal club you are the devil!

Killing of any animals is horrible. Unless you are in a survival situation it's completely unnecessary. 

I can see if you're literally like dying, sure! But hunting seals because "HEY! I'M HUNGRY! THERE'S ALL THIS COOL STUFF IN THE FRIDGE,BUT LETS GO GET A SEAL" Is like weird.



 

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IsawYoshi said:
As someone that lives in the artic I must disagree. I'm not really sure how serious you are since you compare it to eating babies and whatnot, but it's not any more barbaric than eating any other animal.

Unnecessary hurt to the animals is just that, unnecessary, of cource. Here in norway we don't pratice clubbing to my knowledge, I can't imagine so at least since we have pretty strickt rules for animal rights (an animal police and stuff as well).

My friends that live on farms used to have cows and sheeps as pet animals, and they are amazing and cosy animals just like seals. But in the end they as every other animal breed for meat was slaughtered. If anything I think you have a very limited view on animal rights if you think that one kind of animal should be protected because they are nice, as if that wasn't the rule with almost all of them. Good to see that you care about animal cruelty though, but that's a very different story than commercial seal hunting. It's also important to understand why different cultures do what they do, and not just write it of as something idiotic right out of the gate.

Well, I hope you stop eating seal if you do eat them. And I'm completely serious about comparing to eating babies to seals, because they are babies, and they're raped of their fur and left on the ice to bleed to death. Do you have any idea how they must feel inside their head?

Well, Norway, doesn't really participate in seal hunting, to my knowledge, but do you eat seal?



 

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This thread is amazing, at showcasing exactly how not knowledgeable someone is on subject trying to push values on to others. I think the best line is why don't they go to the fridge to get other meats. 



 

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Acevil said:

This thread is amazing, at showcasing exactly how not knowledgeable someone is on subject trying to push values on to others. I think the best line is why don't they go to the fridge to get other meats. 

1. Grammar is important.

2. Nobody ever said meat was in the fridge. I said other foods were.



 

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The OP is hilariously uneducated on the topic. This is what's wrong with the world.



TheLastStarFighter said:
The OP is hilariously uneducated on the topic. This is what's wrong with the world.

Do a quick google search before you come in here pointing fingers. Just because you support animal cruelty doesn't mean I'm uneducated.



 

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Ps3 said:
Acevil said:

This thread is amazing, at showcasing exactly how not knowledgeable someone is on subject trying to push values on to others. I think the best line is why don't they go to the fridge to get other meats. 

1. Grammar is important.

2. Nobody ever said meat was in the fridge. I said other foods were.

I think knowledge is far more important compared to small grammatical error, maybe you should educate yourself on the subject, and try again, because you literally have compared Human babies to seals. (If you are trying to imply people hunt baby seals, you are incredibly wrong, since that is illegal act.)

So are you vegeterian? Do you ever at any point have any leather in your household. Are you against farming practices of your own nation, as they can be crueler than clubbing a seal, as they keep various animals in a crammed environment. 

Also add if you think grammar is important, maybe you should do spell check and punctuation check on the stuff you write. 



 

Ps3 said:

With all due respect, but I think you should look into the matter as well. These seals are mostly hunted for sport and for fun. Seal clubbing is a national pass time for some people, and thousands are murdered for their fur, and they're left on the ice to die alone and cold.

Seals are not "mostly hunted for sport and for fun." They are hunted for the meat and for the fur. Trophy hunting of seals is pretty much a non issue compared to other animals. I'm not saying this because I think the limited "for fun" hunting isn't a problem, but I'm saying it because it is just that, limited. You make it seem like that's the only reason people do it. 

 

It's not "national pass time" for anyone. There are to my knowledge a few tour opperators (not in norway though) that let's you hunt it for fun. This I do not support, but the hunting is in this case something people do on vacation. No one in the artic goes hunting for seals just cause they are bored on a sunday morning. Furthermore the seals are killed before skinning, so they are not left to die from hypothermia. 

 

Ps3 said:

I can blame them cause they can eat plenty of other things. You're telling me that the only thing to eat up there are seals? That's ridiculous. 

They eat fish as well, and some eat whale. There isn't really anything else to eat but fish, seal and whale. It's not like they have a corn field right next to their homes and they choose to ignore it. When you live in that way you can't afford to be picky about what you eat.

 

Ps3 said:

2. Well fish lay thousands of babies at a time. They're billions upon billions! and they're also not as intelligent as seals.

They lay eggs not babies. Only a few of them ever become fish. 

The incredible thing here is that you are portraying others as monsters because they kill animals, and then you say that it's better to kill fish because they aren't as intelligent as seals? If anything you should look at your own ethical thinking. 

 

Ps3 said:

Well, I hope you stop eating seal if you do eat them. And I'm completely serious about comparing to eating babies to seals, because they are babies, and they're raped of their fur and left on the ice to bleed to death. Do you have any idea how they must feel inside their head?

Well, Norway, doesn't really participate in seal hunting, to my knowledge, but do you eat seal?


I don't think I've tasted seal myself, but I'm probably going to taste it sooner or later (I moved to the artic quite recently). The seals that are hunted are grown up and not babies, hunting non-grown up animals isn't allowed. They are not raped for their fur, and are not left on the ice to bleed to death. On one hand you claim that they are clubbed to death, on the other that they freeze to death and on the third that they bleed to death. Killing of these animals are as humane as possible, unlike what you're suggesting. Meaning that they end their life without unnecessary suffering such as "freezing", "bleeding" or spiked clubs like you suggested earlier. It might happen in isolated incidences, but sadly this happens to any animals, humans included. This hasn't anything to do with the commercial hunting of them though, as it is strickly forbidden.

We do participate in seal hunting, but nothing major as far as I know, some thousands a year. People do eat seal, but seing as not many seals are killed it's not a regular thing. I do think they sell it at the supermarket though. Whale is more normal here. 

 

 

You should take a step back and look at your arguments and knowledge of the matter. It almost seems like it's a joke thread, and in case it is I would say that it's a bad one. There are serious issues with animal rights, and you're not helping any of them by throwing out baseless allegations.