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BrazilĀ“s Purge.

Hell on Earth. 9 75.00%
 
Not so bad. 3 25.00%
 
Total:12

No firearms is a good rule for places like Europe. But in Brazil I totally see this actually helping.



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Here in Finland we don't have a widespread gun crime problem, although guns are rare enough to not be useful for self-defense. There, claim countered.

Your problem isn't banning guns, it's letting the bad guys still have them. And you have a ton of bad guys. I agree that your situation would probably be better if more people had guns to defend themselves with, but banning guns in itself isn't a problem at all.



monocle_layton said:

This won't be solved in a day or week. Putting in a Trump won't help either. It's gonna be a dirty situation that will make people fight tooth-and-nail...wouldn't be surprised if Brazil ends up experiencing a revolution or collapse one day due to the amount of issues surrounding it. Makes Europe's problem with refugees seem like a paper cut.

It is this strike man, things are getting dangerous here, really. If the Federal government sent troops to prevent the chaos, fine. But they only send 1500 soldiers, that is nothing. People are getting killed like flies and all stores are getting robbed.

I fear this strike will spread. Here in Sao Paulo we would be in trouble for sure.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

Zkuq said:
Here in Finland we don't have a widespread gun crime problem, although guns are rare enough to not be useful for self-defense. There, claim countered.

Your problem isn't banning guns, it's letting the bad guys still have them. And you have a ton of bad guys. I agree that your situation would probably be better if more people had guns to defend themselves with, but banning guns in itself isn't a problem at all.

Also, the freaking police is on strike...



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

The problem with Brazil isn't that they don't have the equivalent of a "2nd amendment", it's that a good chunk of the population there is still living in what are basically 3rd world conditions. This is the type of stuff that happens on a daily basis in 3rd world nations with rampant poverty and crime... then on top of that you take away whatever little law and order you have there, and it immediately descends into chaos (see also what Venezuela is currently going through, with a government that cares only about maintaining its power grip over the populace instead of doing right by its citizens).



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WagnerPaiva said:
monocle_layton said:

 

Instead of hopping on the bandwagon and just blaming an entire ideology, why don't you reflect upon the situation more before making such ridiculous statements? Bigotry is not going to help Brazil improve whatsoever. Put a corrupt righty in there and it will stay hell- I promise you that.

You better believe I hate them monocle, 13 years of globalist leftist policies turned my country into hell, and my neighboor friends in Venezuela are starving. You better believe I hate them. 

I think you may be blinded by personal experience (which does NOT constitute a valid argument), confirmation bias and others. Just because your country is turning to hell and tgey have adopted leftist policies does not mean that there is a cause relationship. Statistically speaking, if you look at states governed by democrat or republican houses in the US, a much larger sample, it's most definitely not possible to conclude that democratic crat rule makes a state worse, and republican rule better. (Michigan, under democrat rule, has seen much more improvement recently than its republican neighbours. That is again no proof, but a good counterexample.) Many countries with gouvernments much further left than the US have done just fine for a long time. Think scandinavia, canada, etc...

 

 

Also, big difference between communists, who think capitalism is generally evil, and what you call the left in usa/europe (capitalism is a good tool to create wealth, which the government can then attempt to use for the best interest of the people.) 

 

Also, stop blaming everything bad on George Soros. You might not like him, but he's not omnipotent, and there are plenty of people more powerfull. Evil has existed everywhere, long before he had any power.



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Depends on the country. Here in Australia we pretty readily got rid of our firearms and we haven't looked back since. We had dozens of gun massacres in the decades before the ban, and in the decades since, we haven't had a single one.
But like I said, every country is different. In a country with much more crime, like Brazil or the United States, the situation obviously must be handled differently, and if a gun ban is the name of the game then there may be other issues that need to be fixed first so that a gun ban is even viable. We were lucky here in Australia, crime wasn't and isn't that bad, and many of didn't really have a use for firearms.



I guess guns alone are whats controlling the population's behavior.



WagnerPaiva said:
palou said:

It isn't. That's just sensationalism.

I do not understand german, so it is hard for me to seek independent german reports, But as my friends tell, It is scalating. In Sweden and France they are causing fires, raping all women that do not use the veil thing and causing chaos. My Europe friends basically are saying "never saw it like this, ever".

Paris is building a wall around the Tower, this looks to me like a fear thing, it is happening but the MSM is covering up.

As someone that has a german passport, goes there several times a year, has family all over the country and switzerland, and freinds in France and the UK, I can tell you that it's sensationalism. The quality of life remains good, and the greatest threat on the road by far is still the bad driver (even if there are less than in the US, for example.)

 

 

People seem to forget that Germany sees 7000-8000 cases of rape each year since a long time, a number oerfectly jormal for the population size. If refugees rape 200-300 people in a year, they are not making the country significantly more dangerous.

 



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palou said:

Also, big difference between communists, who think capitalism is generally evil, and what you call the left in usa/europe (capitalism is a good tool to create wealth, which the government can then attempt to use for the best interest of the people.) 

This is called socialism, its basically a capi/comi mix.People in Europe realized that capitalism ruins society in the long term.