| RolStoppable said: Critical thinking, for example, leads to the question why you cut off my quote. |
I cut off the relevant part I'm responding to, butchering quotes is what I do.
I don't see how in the context of the rest of the post I quoted has any affect on saying he's gullible though.
Barkley said:
As long as it gets all the handheld goodies I'd agree. Maybe it's slightly too large and has a weaker battery then I'd like, but Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing and we're golden! Though I also hope they eventually make a Mario Kart 9 for it... I'm not impressed by it's launch line-up but it could turn into a very good Nintendo console that I'd hope would outsell the 3ds, though I'm not sure it will make it. |
I don't think the battery is that different from the 3DS and I almost never used my 3DS outside of my home anyway. I also never carried it in my pockets, so size isn't really an issue to me. Launch line-up might not be stellar, but it's better for me than the 3DS and Wii U as I didn't buy either of those consoles at launch, but I'm very tempted to pick up a Switch right away.
At launch I'd get:
Breath of the Wild (I've waited long enough, so I'll definitely go with the superior version)
A month later:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (I love battle mode and the one in the Wii U version sucked balls)
In May:
I'd get Arms in Spring (one of my most anticipated new IPs, looks really fun) and also Rime if it reviews well. Sonic Mania is also on my list.
For the Summer:
Splatoon 2 (loved the first game on the Wii U, so this is a no brainer)
For Fall:
Skyrim (never played the original and this does have the advantage of being portable)
For the Holidays:
Super Mario Odyssey is again a no-brainer.
And maybe Project Sonic 2017 if it somehow manages to review well or look appealing to me.
And then there's games that are slated for 2017, but have no release date like Yooka-Laylee, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Lego Worlds, Dragonball Xenoverse 2, Project Octopath Travellers, Stardew Valley, etc.
"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides
Alkibiádēs said:
I don't think the battery is that different from the 3DS and I almost never used my 3DS outside of my home anyway. I also never carried it in my pockets, so size isn't really an issue to me. Launch line-up might not be stellar, but it's better for me than the 3DS and Wii U. |
Yeah you may be right, and I mostly used my handhelds at home all the time too. xD
I'll probably use the Switch almost exclusively docked so it's not a big issue for me, and you're also right about the launch line-ups, 3DS was terrible! Didn't bother picking it up till Mario Kart 7.
I'll probably wait till Super Mario Odyssey for Switch.
Barkley said:
Yeah you may be right, and I mostly used my handhelds at home all the time too. xD I'll probably use the Switch almost exclusively docked so it's not a big issue for me, and you're also right about the launch line-ups, 3DS was terrible! Didn't bother picking it up till Mario Kart 7. I'll probably wait till Super Mario Odyssey for Switch. |
That's probably the best thing to do, might even be a price cut or interesting bundle by then. I'm too big of a Zelda fan to wait though. :p
"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides
Alkibiádēs said:
That's probably the best thing to do, might even be a price cut or interesting bundle by then. I'm too big of a Zelda fan to wait though. :p |
Yeah I'm hoping for a $300 Bundle with Mario, I think I'll probably have to pick up a Pro Controller too, can't see me using the Joycon Grip. As for Zelda it looks fantastic but the only Zelda games I've played are Ocarina/Majora. Want to play WindWaker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword first and I have so much trouble finding the time!
| RolStoppable said: The final part, which you cut off, changes the context. He may be gullible, but that can be worked on and fixed without it being a challenge. And it's something that I am willing to help with, otherwise the sentence would have ended where you cut it off. |
Eh? Insulting someone but saying that they can change doesn't affect the insult in the slightest, if anything it emphasizes that you think they have a personal problem. No one is forever stuck in their ways. Offering your help to rectify a flaw in their person that you percieve is patronizing and potentially even more insulting.
It may not be an exactly suitable example but saying "You're stupid, but that can be changed, I can help with that." Is still very insulting.
You're not here to tell people they have a problem in their personality and that you're going to fix it.
Barkley said:
Eh? Insulting someone but saying that they can change doesn't affect the insult in the slightest, if anything it emphasizes that you think they have a personal problem. No one is forever stuck in their ways. Offering your help to rectify a flaw in their person that you percieve is patronizing and potentially even more insulting. It may not be an exactly suitable example but saying "You're stupid, but that can be changed, I can help with that." Is still very insulting. You're not here to tell people they have a problem in their personality and that you're going to fix it. |
Ladies calm down, he was a bit rude yeah but can we get back to games now!
I think that more sales of a console will benefit the owenrs of that console to some degree! So it does affect us as customers a little I think.
If it's your sole gaming device? Absolutely. If you really only want to play Nintendo games? I guess not. But, either way, Nintendo will be compelled to put titles on a machine with a healthy userbase.
You want that new Metroid? A Nintendo console with strong and sturdy sales probably gets you that.
| Barkley said: You're not here to tell people they have a problem in their personality and that you're going to fix it. |
Have you read any ban notice lately? That's exactly what mods are for.
If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.
Soundwave said:
Except Switch is an actual portable game system. Which means Nintendo likely won't have much trouble selling at least 40-50 million of them, especially as time goes on as the price drops and more form factors are made available. If they can't even manage 40-50 million then obviously something very wrong has happened, but realistically they should be able to get to 40 and if they hit 40 it's too many users to not go ahead with a Switch 2 or whatever they want to make. So again, a lot of this stuff is much ado about nothing. Nintendo share holders will just have to content themselves with Nintendo making lots of money. Which they do every generation, even in periods where they have some hardware struggles. Nintendo makes lots of money, look at the last quarter, even with a half dead 3DS and a totally dead Wii U they pull a mini NES out of their ass and mobile profits to make more money than Sony's game division did for the same period. Nintendo has the whole making profit thing down to a science, as such quite frankly I don't really care if they sell 40-50 million or 80-90 million on that basis. It's not like I get any of that money. |
Well that's assuming the market sees it as a portable game system considering its size. And considering the 3DS has been the lowest selling handheld from Nintendo, 40-50 million units may not actually be reached.
Shareholders do not just look at profit. Shareholders have to predict how a company is going to perform, because they need to be in the position of selling shares before the value drops. If Nintendo show that their business strategy is wrong, again, then they may lose a significant amount of value. The fact that YoY Nintendo is down on it's net revenue is not going to reassure investors that they are a safe long-term bet. Without investors, Nintendo will not be able to function.
Comparing Nintendo's shares to Sony's is absolutely pointless - two very different companies.
vivster said:
So how does that matter then if you're not reliant on Nintendo as your only gaming platform? |
Let me remind you of my comment:
"So how much the Switch sells will be an indicator as to the direction Nintendo moves in the next few years. If you love Nintendo as they are today and the Switch has poor sales, that Nintendo will cease to exist in the near future. "
If you like Nintendo now, then if they keep making bad decisions, they will cease to exist in the future. Whether you like Nintendo or not is unrelated to being reliant on them as your only gaming platform (wtf?).
Soundwave said:
It doesn't matter either way actually. The whole "if Nintendo sells great that means lots of developers will make great games for it, so surely you should worry if Switch is your only system!" is equally a load of shit. The Wii and 3DS have mediocre third party support despite selling a lot. Why? Becauase there are alternatives that offer developers even more lucrative options (versus Wii there was PS3 + 360 and versus 3DS there's iOS/Android) and against Switch there will always be the PS4-XB1-PC AND mobile on the other end to siphon off developer support. So it doesn't even matter if Switch is the only system you have. It's not worth losing sleep over how well it sells so long as it doesn't totally flop. You're going to get basically the same types of games either way, doesn't matter if it sells 40 million or 80 million. The developers who really want to make games for the system will be there at 40 million, anything higher is gravy. No point in stressing over it. |
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