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Lonely_Dolphin on 06 February 2017
Nem said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

The games I mentioned, no, and even if that were true to a significant degree it has nothing to do with whether or not the Switch is portable.

The bolded is you admitting it's portable. That you think it's a secondary function doesn't change the fact that it can be played on the go.

Again, terms like "main purpose" and "secondary" n "primary" are irrelevant. It's playable on the go, that's all that matters in terms of whether or not the system is portable. Though, seeing as the whole point of the Switch is to be played anywhere, it's portability is definitely a big part of it's main purpose. You can't play anywhere if a TV and wall outlet are required.

If its irrelevant then the PS4 is a portable cause it has the same function with the Vita. That logic = zero sense.

Sure, if you want to get fooled by the advertisement, even though Nintnendo themselves say the Swtich is a home console. Go watch the Fire emblem direct, they say it. So, this is your opinion vs what Nintendo themselves recognised.

oniyide said:

Yup the most popular games on 3ds lately have been like that, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Monster Hunter...wait a second

I get the impression you are trying to just throw dirt in the air here. Yes, Fire emblem, pokemon and monster hunter ARE designed for short bursts of play. I don't even know how you can say such an outrageous thing.

 

Okay sure fine whatever, the PS4 is/isn't portable, whichever you prefer. Now what does that have to do with whether or not the Switch is portable? Oh, right, nothing! 

Yeah they just put in a screen and battery and detachable controllers for no reason, and despite that stuff it's totally just a regular old home console that's only playable with TV and outlet, that's totally it! lol the advertisement isn't lying, the Switch is ment to be and can be played anywhere. That's not my opinion, it is a fact that because of the aforementioned features the system is portable, and the portability is the whole point of the console since why else would those features be there in place of a significant graphical leap that home consoles normally get. I mean why do you think it's called "Switch?" 

Probably because playing 5-15 minutes a day will get you literally no where in those games. Not sure how you don't know that, I mean you even have a Fire Emblem avatar.



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oniyide on 06 February 2017
Nem said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

The games I mentioned, no, and even if that were true to a significant degree it has nothing to do with whether or not the Switch is portable.

The bolded is you admitting it's portable. That you think it's a secondary function doesn't change the fact that it can be played on the go.

Again, terms like "main purpose" and "secondary" n "primary" are irrelevant. It's playable on the go, that's all that matters in terms of whether or not the system is portable. Though, seeing as the whole point of the Switch is to be played anywhere, it's portability is definitely a big part of it's main purpose. You can't play anywhere if a TV and wall outlet are required.

If its irrelevant then the PS4 is a portable cause it has the same function with the Vita. That logic = zero sense.

Sure, if you want to get fooled by the advertisement, even though Nintnendo themselves say the Swtich is a home console. Go watch the Fire emblem direct, they say it. So, this is your opinion vs what Nintendo themselves recognised.

oniyide said:

Yup the most popular games on 3ds lately have been like that, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Monster Hunter...wait a second

I get the impression you are trying to just throw dirt in the air here. Yes, Fire emblem, pokemon and monster hunter ARE designed for short bursts of play. I don't even know how you can say such an outrageous thing.

No Just Dance is designed for short burst of play. Those games I listed last for 40 plus hours. you might as well say Final Fantasy is designed for short burst of play as well. Whats the difference between that and Pokemon?



oniyide on 06 February 2017
Einsam_Delphin said:
Nem said:

If its irrelevant then the PS4 is a portable cause it has the same function with the Vita. That logic = zero sense.

Sure, if you want to get fooled by the advertisement, even though Nintnendo themselves say the Swtich is a home console. Go watch the Fire emblem direct, they say it. So, this is your opinion vs what Nintendo themselves recognised.

I get the impression you are trying to just throw dirt in the air here. Yes, Fire emblem, pokemon and monster hunter ARE designed for short bursts of play. I don't even know how you can say such an outrageous thing.

 

Okay sure fine whatever, the PS4 is/isn't portable, whichever you prefer. Now what does that have to do with whether or not the Switch is portable? Oh, right, nothing! 

Yeah they just put in a screen and battery and detachable controllers for no reason, and despite that stuff it's totally just a regular old home console that's only playable with TV and outlet, that's totally it! lol the advertisement isn't lying, the Switch is ment to be and can be played anywhere. That's not my opinion, it is a fact that because of the aforementioned features the system is portable, and the portability is the whole point of the console since why else would those features be there in place of a significant graphical leap that home consoles normally get. I mean why do you think it's called "Switch?" 

Probably because playing 5-15 minutes a day will get you literally no where in those games. Not sure how you don't know that, I mean you even have a Fire Emblem avatar.

This. I feel he's really grasping here. If we were talking about the DS library...maybe he would be correct as stuff like cooking mama and brain age were real popular, but nobody cares about them anymore, they sold like crap on 3ds compared to the last gen. If we look at the games released on 3ds versus the Wii U they are not that different. Hell lot of the games been put out have been ports of home console titles. These "short burst" games are relegated to indies and even then are available for most systems



Dgc1808 on 06 February 2017
vivster said:
KLXVER said:
If the Switch fails, it might happen.

*the Switch will fail if it happens

I believe both of these are correct. Hopefully it doesn't happen and the switch is simply a success. 



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trent44 on 07 February 2017

http://time.com/4662446/nintendo-president-switch-interview/

...Thinking about 3DS and Wii U, do you still believe in the two-screen approach? Will we see a direct successor to the 3DS?

We are not creating a successor to the 3DS right now...


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Soundwave on 07 February 2017
trent44 said:

http://time.com/4662446/nintendo-president-switch-interview/

...Thinking about 3DS and Wii U, do you still believe in the two-screen approach? Will we see a direct successor to the 3DS?

We are not creating a successor to the 3DS right now...

Yep, that means the so-called "4DS" would be at least 3-4 years away if it ever even happens. 

If you want something like that you are simply going to have to realistically wait and hope Nintendo releases a smaller version of the current Switch and learn to like it. 3DS successor isn't coming any time soon. 



Nem on 07 February 2017
oniyide said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

 

Okay sure fine whatever, the PS4 is/isn't portable, whichever you prefer. Now what does that have to do with whether or not the Switch is portable? Oh, right, nothing! 

Yeah they just put in a screen and battery and detachable controllers for no reason, and despite that stuff it's totally just a regular old home console that's only playable with TV and outlet, that's totally it! lol the advertisement isn't lying, the Switch is ment to be and can be played anywhere. That's not my opinion, it is a fact that because of the aforementioned features the system is portable, and the portability is the whole point of the console since why else would those features be there in place of a significant graphical leap that home consoles normally get. I mean why do you think it's called "Switch?" 

Probably because playing 5-15 minutes a day will get you literally no where in those games. Not sure how you don't know that, I mean you even have a Fire Emblem avatar.

This. I feel he's really grasping here. If we were talking about the DS library...maybe he would be correct as stuff like cooking mama and brain age were real popular, but nobody cares about them anymore, they sold like crap on 3ds compared to the last gen. If we look at the games released on 3ds versus the Wii U they are not that different. Hell lot of the games been put out have been ports of home console titles. These "short burst" games are relegated to indies and even then are available for most systems

Why is every battle in Fire emblem a "chapter", why is monster hunter divided into missions? Why is pokemon divided into Gyms or small areas?

See, the total duration of the game is besides the point. The point is that the games are designed so you can pick them up and make some progress and be able to pick them up again at any time. Also, these short bursts aren't as precise as 5-15 minutes. It can be half an hour, it can be an hour. The defining factor is that they are designed in a way where you can drop and pick them up at any time, wether you play 5-15m or 30-60m.

But, i can see that there is a big unwillingness in understand things that are plain as day and distorting into completely different things.

So, i am not gonna bother anymore. You have your opinion and i have mine.



Lonely_Dolphin on 08 February 2017
Nem said:
oniyide said:

This. I feel he's really grasping here. If we were talking about the DS library...maybe he would be correct as stuff like cooking mama and brain age were real popular, but nobody cares about them anymore, they sold like crap on 3ds compared to the last gen. If we look at the games released on 3ds versus the Wii U they are not that different. Hell lot of the games been put out have been ports of home console titles. These "short burst" games are relegated to indies and even then are available for most systems

Why is every battle in Fire emblem a "chapter", why is monster hunter divided into missions? Why is pokemon divided into Gyms or small areas?

See, the total duration of the game is besides the point. The point is that the games are designed so you can pick them up and make some progress and be able to pick them up again at any time. Also, these short bursts aren't as precise as 5-15 minutes. It can be half an hour, it can be an hour. The defining factor is that they are designed in a way where you can drop and pick them up at any time, wether you play 5-15m or 30-60m.

But, i can see that there is a big unwillingness in understand things that are plain as day and distorting into completely different things.

So, i am not gonna bother anymore. You have your opinion and i have mine.

 

lol what!? Almost every game, including home console games (where Fire Emblem/Monster Hunter started btw), is divided up in some way, be it chapters, levels, worlds, whatever. Even if a game isn't sectioned up, that has nothing to do with whether or not you can stop playing it at anytime, only how often the game saves does, which most games, again including home console ones, allow you to do at pretty much anytime if not automatically, so your logic makes no sense, unless you're saying every game ever is specifically designed for handheld, in which case your point is moot, though it was already an irrelevant point since it has nothing to do with whether or not the Switch is portable.

Also lol at an hour being considered a short burst. A short burst game is one where you can make progress and get gratification out of 5-20 minute sessions. That isn't enough time to make significant progress in any of the aforementioned games (i.e., getting to the next gym or beating the next chapter), so you'll get little to no satisfaction playing those games for such short intervals at a time.

Of course I'm sure you're well aware that this is way besides the point, so I'll assume you now realize how wrong it is to say the Switch isn't portable and can't be used like a handheld, hence why you're trying to steer the conversation away from that so you don't have to man up and just admit you were wrong.



Xenostar on 08 February 2017

Switch without a dock