HA! You were so wrong man. What a stup...........oh wait.

Yeah, nah, that guy is crazy, Switch is DOA, I guarantee to you by 2020 Nintendo will have gone full mobile.

Oh. Well I sure look foolish.

All of that is nice but your logic makes no sense because motion controls are now part of the standard (dual analog) according to you. Motion/gyro is part of PS4/PS5 and Switch/Switch 2. In other words, they are just another tool part of the package like the 4 face buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, and dual sticks. Thats why they are not the enemy and can't be viewed the same as touch. Touch controls actually do work against buttons because you can't use both simultaneously (for now), motion however can be used with buttons. When playing CoD for example, while aiming with the sticks I would love to be able to jump or crouch or reload (like on Wii) with a simple gesture. It frees up a button for something else. Again it's just another tool, it's OK to have your preference but you aren't really understanding they can work together. Your bias is getting the best of you.

Also my point about these games being designed around dual analog was that you were flatout wrong and absolutely incorrect. You tried to use that to prove motion failed, when in reality you made that up.

PS: Joycon 2 absolutely poop on any dual controller now with mouse support. My point is, you can't compare wiimote to dual analog because it wasn't given a chance to evolve into its prime like dual analog. Wiimote has evolved into what the joycon2 are now. If you compare PS1 first iteration of dual analog to joy con2 then that would be unfair. I'm saying Joycon 2 smoke any iteration of dual analog thanks to its versatility. It offers all of the buttons, dual sticks, motion controls, mouse support, and multiplayer with "one controller". Dual analog looks horrible now. 

I own more than 50 "normal" games on Wii and I never found playing with the Wiimote to be awful. If anything, I enjoyed it more than a standard controller thanks to additions like pointer aiming and gesture-based motion.

This is simply untrue.

A huge proportion of Nintendo's first party titles on Switch use motion, including many later in the system's life, from BOTW/TOTK to Splatoon 2/3 to Luigi's Mansion 3 to Metroid Prime to Mario Party to Pikmin.

Then there's third party additions; Monster Hunter Rise, Doom 2016/Eternal, Skyrim, Fortnite, Overwatch, Paladins, No More Heroes, Wolfenstein, Crysis 1-3, Resident Evil series, Sniper Elite series, the list goes on and on.

Yeah I've seen so many takes online about how "everybody loved Switch 1 when it was announced, but everyone hates Switch 2" which is nonsense as many of the exact same complaints were prevalent back in 2017; that the hardware costs too much, that the games cost too much, that third party support will be lacking, that the competition offers more value, that once all the enthusiasts have one sales will fall off a cliff, etc.

Entirely agree with you! I’ve been saying something similar to this for over 8 years.

I always felt that it would pass Wii levels and I remember people telling me it wouldn't lol. Funny to look back on predictions. I wonder what we'll say in 8 years about today's Switch 2 predictions.

You also have to separate the online discourse from that of regular people. Because otherwise you end up with the Avatar Hatred Mirage where a small minority of pessimists often monopolize the online discourse when it comes to IP fandoms. There is some link between pessimism and an extreme level of social media activity - especially in fan communities (specific and general) and it trickles down into more traditional online communities.

So, with the Avatar Hatred Mirage, if you limited your exposure to the Internet, you’d think everyone hated the original film and no one was interested in the sequel. However, in reality, the vast majority of filmgoers loved Avatar and were very much looking forward to the sequel.

Nintendo gets hit with this stuff frequently. The mirage with Nintendo is people loved the Gamecube and hated the Wii. Now, we know this isn’t true by the statistics, but by the online discourse it looked very much like that.

Pretty much yeah.

There's also the doomer/ragebait economy to consider, where videos catastrophizing about or shitting on Switch 2 get more clicks than more rational takes due to drawing the attention of both offended fans and haters. Negativity just gets more views, which means more money, so content creators have a financial incentive to bash Switch 2.