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I will be playing...

Both Horizon: ZD and BOTW. 114 10.18%
 
Just Horizon. 290 25.89%
 
Just BOTW. 520 46.43%
 
I'm going to wait to see... 33 2.95%
 
BOTW first then Horizon. 120 10.71%
 
Horizon first then BOTW. 43 3.84%
 
Total:1,120

No, because of new hardware. Question is will Switch overshadow Horizon?



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BeatdownBrigade said:
Azzanation said:

Haha whats Horizon? Who's GG? Thats what customers will be saying when there choosing between the two.

Not even the best IPs from Sony or MS can overshadow Zelda. 

Not entirely true. Series like Uncharted from Sony and Halo from Microsoft overshadow Zelda.

Best selling Zelda game of all-time was Twilight Princess, releasing on two consoles (Gamecube and Wii) and it only sold 8.6 million in the 11 years its been on the market. Uncharted 4 sold 8.8 million in its first 7 months. Hell Uncharted 3 released around the same time as Skyward Sword which sold 3.6 million all-time on a console with a 100m install base. Uncharted 3 sold more than that in DAY 1, and went on to sell 6.7 million on a console with less than 3/4th the install base.

And it goes without saying that Halo has sales records the likes of 8, 12, 9.75, and 10 million copies for various entries.

I love me some Zelda and grew up on it. OuT is in my top 3 games of all-time. But there are plenty of franchises with far more consumer appeal. Hell a game like Last of Us being a new IP outsold all but Twilight Princess and thats a library consistening of over 20 games between consoles and handhelds. Other games like Gran Turismo and others have healthly outsold Zelda consistently. GT specifically having sales records like 9.3, 11.75, 12, and 15 million for various entries.

If you say so mate. Also remember that Uncharted and Halo both get heavily bundled and both receive many discounts throughout there life span. Zelda is an event and you would understand how good it really is if you were around playing the original games. Sure they sell well however Zelda is the game to beat when it’s released in that year. Not Halo, not Uncharted and definitely not some new IP nobody knows about especially from a Dev that has a lot to prove compared to Zelda which is being made by the best in the industry. Im not even a Nintendo fan in fact im a massive Halo fan yet i give credit to where it’s due. Sales these days are incredibly misleading to a games quality. Every main line Zelda game has delivered on being a masterpiece and Nintendo (Unlike MS or Sony) don’t like playing it safe by recycling the same game just for sequels, instead they deliver on creating newer experiences and they have all been successful.

Do yourself a favour and find out how many UC4 copies actually sold in store and how many were giveaways through bundles. I can tell you right now that there was very little bundle choices where I am from which didn’t include UC4 + 2 other games. It was sitting on 4.5m before the heavy bundle period. Interesting stuff. Halo also falls in the same category except maybe not as bad as UC4 however it was still bundled with the more expensive XB1 deals. You see you go off sales which never tell the full story. I can tell you right now out of the 3 games, UC4 will make the littlest profit which actually sold the most units compared to Halo which actually made a fortune at launch due to hardware, Micro transactions and merchandise, while Zelda will sell a solid number of units without the fake giveaways.. Unless Nintendo is desperate and need to give the game away just so fanboys can claim "This game sold better" attitude 

I bet Zelda will earn more money to Nintendo than what UC4 did for Sony mainly due to the fact Sony spent a small fortune to create UC4 and they basically giving the game away for free and have advertised it pretty well which isn’t cheap. Zelda won’t have much advertisements and probably cost Nintendo a lot less to make and knowing Nintendo they won’t give it away for free.

To me, Zelda overthrows any game Sony or MS make because there are no work arounds. No giveaways, just a game that will sell well and make Nintendo money unlike the other two which will force it in your library. If you want to go off sales sure, i still think Zelda will outsell Horizon however im talking about the bigger picture not just sales because again sales never tell the full story.



Azzanation said:
BeatdownBrigade said:

Not entirely true. Series like Uncharted from Sony and Halo from Microsoft overshadow Zelda.

Best selling Zelda game of all-time was Twilight Princess, releasing on two consoles (Gamecube and Wii) and it only sold 8.6 million in the 11 years its been on the market. Uncharted 4 sold 8.8 million in its first 7 months. Hell Uncharted 3 released around the same time as Skyward Sword which sold 3.6 million all-time on a console with a 100m install base. Uncharted 3 sold more than that in DAY 1, and went on to sell 6.7 million on a console with less than 3/4th the install base.

And it goes without saying that Halo has sales records the likes of 8, 12, 9.75, and 10 million copies for various entries.

I love me some Zelda and grew up on it. OuT is in my top 3 games of all-time. But there are plenty of franchises with far more consumer appeal. Hell a game like Last of Us being a new IP outsold all but Twilight Princess and thats a library consistening of over 20 games between consoles and handhelds. Other games like Gran Turismo and others have healthly outsold Zelda consistently. GT specifically having sales records like 9.3, 11.75, 12, and 15 million for various entries.

If you say so mate. Also remember that Uncharted and Halo both get heavily bundled and both receive many discounts throughout there life span. Zelda is an event and you would understand how good it really is if you were around playing the original games. Sure they sell well however Zelda is the game to beat when it’s released in that year. Not Halo, not Uncharted and definitely not some new IP nobody knows about especially from a Dev that has a lot to prove compared to Zelda which is being made by the best in the industry. Im not even a Nintendo fan in fact im a massive Halo fan yet i give credit to where it’s due. Sales these days are incredibly misleading to a games quality. Every main line Zelda game has delivered on being a masterpiece and Nintendo (Unlike MS or Sony) don’t like playing it safe by recycling the same game just for sequels, instead they deliver on creating newer experiences and they have all been successful.

Do yourself a favour and find out how many UC4 copies actually sold in store and how many were giveaways through bundles. I can tell you right now that there was very little bundle choices where I am from which didn’t include UC4 + 2 other games. It was sitting on 4.5m before the heavy bundle period. Interesting stuff. Halo also falls in the same category except maybe not as bad as UC4 however it was still bundled with the more expensive XB1 deals. You see you go off sales which never tell the full story. I can tell you right now out of the 3 games, UC4 will make the littlest profit which actually sold the most units compared to Halo which actually made a fortune at launch due to hardware, Micro transactions and merchandise, while Zelda will sell a solid number of units without the fake giveaways.. Unless Nintendo is desperate and need to give the game away just so fanboys can claim "This game sold better" attitude 

I bet Zelda will earn more money to Nintendo than what UC4 did for Sony mainly due to the fact Sony spent a small fortune to create UC4 and they basically giving the game away for free and have advertised it pretty well which isn’t cheap. Zelda won’t have much advertisements and probably cost Nintendo a lot less to make and knowing Nintendo they won’t give it away for free.

To me, Zelda overthrows any game Sony or MS make because there are no work arounds. No giveaways, just a game that will sell well and make Nintendo money unlike the other two which will force it in your library. If you want to go off sales sure, i still think Zelda will outsell Horizon however im talking about the bigger picture not just sales because again sales never tell the full story.

Seriously... Who are you trying to convince when you say you are not a Nintendo fan?

And please give us the amount of money that was spent to produce Uncharted 4, Halo 5 and Zelda Breath of the Wild respectively.

Thank you in advance.

And btw, you're assuming quite a lot of things and pass them as facts, but none of it is grounded or supported by anything and all it says is "I like it better so I have convinced myself that it does better". 



Hynad said:
Azzanation said:

If you say so mate. Also remember that Uncharted and Halo both get heavily bundled and both receive many discounts throughout there life span. Zelda is an event and you would understand how good it really is if you were around playing the original games. Sure they sell well however Zelda is the game to beat when it’s released in that year. Not Halo, not Uncharted and definitely not some new IP nobody knows about especially from a Dev that has a lot to prove compared to Zelda which is being made by the best in the industry. Im not even a Nintendo fan in fact im a massive Halo fan yet i give credit to where it’s due. Sales these days are incredibly misleading to a games quality. Every main line Zelda game has delivered on being a masterpiece and Nintendo (Unlike MS or Sony) don’t like playing it safe by recycling the same game just for sequels, instead they deliver on creating newer experiences and they have all been successful.

Do yourself a favour and find out how many UC4 copies actually sold in store and how many were giveaways through bundles. I can tell you right now that there was very little bundle choices where I am from which didn’t include UC4 + 2 other games. It was sitting on 4.5m before the heavy bundle period. Interesting stuff. Halo also falls in the same category except maybe not as bad as UC4 however it was still bundled with the more expensive XB1 deals. You see you go off sales which never tell the full story. I can tell you right now out of the 3 games, UC4 will make the littlest profit which actually sold the most units compared to Halo which actually made a fortune at launch due to hardware, Micro transactions and merchandise, while Zelda will sell a solid number of units without the fake giveaways.. Unless Nintendo is desperate and need to give the game away just so fanboys can claim "This game sold better" attitude 

I bet Zelda will earn more money to Nintendo than what UC4 did for Sony mainly due to the fact Sony spent a small fortune to create UC4 and they basically giving the game away for free and have advertised it pretty well which isn’t cheap. Zelda won’t have much advertisements and probably cost Nintendo a lot less to make and knowing Nintendo they won’t give it away for free.

To me, Zelda overthrows any game Sony or MS make because there are no work arounds. No giveaways, just a game that will sell well and make Nintendo money unlike the other two which will force it in your library. If you want to go off sales sure, i still think Zelda will outsell Horizon however im talking about the bigger picture not just sales because again sales never tell the full story.

Seriously... Who are you trying to convince when you say you are not a Nintendo fan?

And please give us the amount of money that was spent to produce Uncharted 4, Halo 5 and Zelda Breath of the Wild respectively.

Thank you in advance.

I havent brought a Nintendo console since the N64. Im clearly a fan ;)

I will be buying a Switch though, you know, for Zelda.



Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

Seriously... Who are you trying to convince when you say you are not a Nintendo fan?

And please give us the amount of money that was spent to produce Uncharted 4, Halo 5 and Zelda Breath of the Wild respectively.

Thank you in advance.

I havent brought a Nintendo console since the N64. Im clearly a fan ;)

I will be buying a Switch, you know, for Zelda.

I see you defend them quite a lot for someone who's not a fan. That and your constant downplaying of anything Sony related. If you're not a fan of Nintendo, so sorry. But if you didn't come up with such [rather hyperbolic] "arguments", I would never think any of that.

But you're trying to dodge the important part of my comment: Please give us the numbers by which you base your claims. 



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I can only speak for myself. I like what I have seen of Horizon. I'm a huge fan of the games Guerilla made. Killzone 2 is one of the best shooters I have ever played and Killzone Mercenary is without a doubt the best portable shooter of all time. But I won't buy at launch, because Zelda and Switch. That's where my money goes this spring. Will get Horizon sometime in summer or fall.



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Hynad said:
Azzanation said:

I havent brought a Nintendo console since the N64. Im clearly a fan ;)

I will be buying a Switch, you know, for Zelda.

I see you defend them quite a lot for someone who's not a fan. That and your constant downplaying of anything Sony related. If you're not a fan of Nintendo, so sorry. But if you didn't come up with such [rather hyperbolic] "arguments", I would never think any of that.

But you're trying to dodge the important part of my comment: Please give us the numbers by which you base your claims. 

You believe what ever you want to believe. Im only on here because im on a break, i have a life to live. Enjoy.



Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

I see you defend them quite a lot for someone who's not a fan. That and your constant downplaying of anything Sony related. If you're not a fan of Nintendo, so sorry. But if you didn't come up with such [rather hyperbolic] "arguments", I would never think any of that.

But you're trying to dodge the important part of my comment: Please give us the numbers by which you base your claims. 

You believe what ever you want to believe. Im only on here because im on a break, i have a life to live. Enjoy.

You have made this too easy. 



pcstation4 said:
asqarkabab said:
no it will not overshadowed by a game like horizon
is this a joke assumption ?

Horizon will most likely have double the sales of Zelda, so no, It's not a joke.

Lucky for me, I get to play both and I feel like Zelda will be the better overall game no doubt. I'm hoping Horizon surprises me.

Lucky for me aswell because i will2  play zelda on the switch 

Youre either joking or you give big credit to guerilla games 

Horizon is nothing compared to zelda because zelda has a big fanbase and is an old games series 



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asqarkabab said:
pcstation4 said:

Horizon will most likely have double the sales of Zelda, so no, It's not a joke.

Lucky for me, I get to play both and I feel like Zelda will be the better overall game no doubt. I'm hoping Horizon surprises me.

Lucky for me aswell because i will2  play zelda on the switch 

Youre either joking or you give big credit to guerilla games 

Horizon is nothing compared to zelda because zelda has a big fanbase and is an old games series 

Yes. Zelda has a big fanbase. A fanbase of something between 4M and 8.5M if we go by title's sales. But 45M+ people are playing on the PS4 right now. That's a lot of potential buyers for Horizon, which is the current most anticipated upcoming Sony title. Horizon is nothing compared to Zelda because it has yet to get the time to prove itself. Discounting it when it's not even out yet is rather unreasonable.