I felt this way as well at first! Which is why I stand by Nintendo can be a pretty horrible car salesman. This device has some really great tech in it for what is essentially $100 over the Shield TV. I was just reading on Twitter and I had no clue that the touchscreen screen has the same 3d touch haptic feedback like the new iPhones. Nintendo didn't even discuss all of that in their presentation.

Really? Are you sure thats legit? Makes no sense for them to not mention it.

Agreed.  I think all of us are thinking they should have shown a lot more, and unless their business people are totally incompetent they know that too.  Doesn't inspire confidence.

First of all, comparing the Switch with PS4/XB1 makes prefect sense since this is the closest competition Nintendo has. That's like saying you don't compare the price points of two different cars when you're out shopping for a new car; one car being a few years older, but have come down in price, and a newer car with full price. Of course you compare them! "What else do I get for this price?"

Secondly, I'm opposed paid online, period. BUT, MS and Sony is adding more value to their subscribtions than Nintendo seem to be doing. With PSN+ you get 6 games A MONTH for as long as you're payinf for said subscribtion. In Nintendo's case, you'll get ONE 20-30 year old game FOR A MONTH - so it's basically renting a game for a month. But hey, if the paid online service only is $10, that'll be sweet as hell - but if it costs $50, then Nintendo can suck it. What's new with Nintendo's online service is the shittiness of it, of the low value of the service.

Yeah there's actually a quote and everything from Immersion technology stating Nintendo licensing of the tech for the Switch. 

http://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=12423944&gfv=1

Well Ill be damned...

A three year old console with better graphics, mind you. And compelling exclusive titles is a very subjevtive term. For you it might be more compelling, and for me it's kinda 50/50 right now (but that might change), but my brother would much rather have the exclusives (or 3rd parties) for PS4 than most of the Switch's games. Only game he's interested in is Zelda. Nothing else. So, subjective.

Depending on how you see the Switch, it's either an underpowered home console or a overpriced portable console. It's a matter of point of view. Me, I'm actually quite fine with the price, BUT it's the price coupled with everything else that irks me.

This paid online service is bad in comparison with its competition as well, not only compared to previous Nintendo systems.

I'll agree that the joycons have pretty cool tech inside them, but I wanna see them utilized and justified before thinking the price is ok. No price increase in 10 years isn't really a selling point when you should be able to make the same things cheaper as time goes by.

The thing is, Nintendo is demanding a higher price for the exact same things as MS and Sony. That's not sucking as much, that's sucking HARDER. Buying a pair of joycons and a second docking station will cost you $170 - that's more than half the price of the entire console with everything in it!

You don't only get indie games, I know that you got God of War 3 or something like that, at some point. But still, you get two games and you get to keep them for a long time. With Nintendo, you have one month to beat the game to your hearts content, then it's gone. You probably have to buy it if you wanna continue playing it. And then you have to buy it again when Nintendo launches their next system. One thing that is cool though, is that you'll get online functions with the SNES games (not so for the NES games thought).

I agree with the first paragraph, and I'll reiterate what I said before; it's not the price of the actual console that bothers me, it's that everything else is so overpriced.

But MS and Sony still isn't overpricing their products as much as Nintendo is. I can agree that ALL of these accessorories probably is a little overpriced, but Nintendo is the worst offender in this case. And my points of the paid online still stands.

But you can't play all local co-op games that way (at least I don't think you can). I'm not even sure you can play 4 players on the same Switch? That argument only applies to certain games; what about the games when you need two analouge sticks to play? Then we're right back at the start of the argument. But you did bring up a good point there, I gotta admit. I'll try to see them as individual controllers instead of only half a controller - for my own happiness sake. But your last argument doesn't really hold up; that's NOT the equivalents of buying a second PS/XB, since in that case you could have two people playing two different kind of games, at the same time. That's just not the same thing as having two docking station, since it's still only you who can play games, and not someone else as well. Thinking like that, I have to pay $530 for that specific set up AND a game. Adding $70 I could get TWO PS4's with TWO games. I just don't think these accessories justify their high price.

I won't.  I see them as half controllers compared to wiimote + nunchuck setup.  No fucking way I'm going to play with just one of those.