Nintendo is nickel and diming us with the Switch!

[DanneSandin]

RolStoppable said:

DanneSandin said:

A three year old console with better graphics, mind you. And compelling exclusive titles is a very subjevtive term. For you it might be more compelling, and for me it's kinda 50/50 right now (but that might change), but my brother would much rather have the exclusives (or 3rd parties) for PS4 than most of the Switch's games. Only game he's interested in is Zelda. Nothing else. So, subjective.

Depending on how you see the Switch, it's either an underpowered home console or a overpriced portable console. It's a matter of point of view. Me, I'm actually quite fine with the price, BUT it's the price coupled with everything else that irks me.

This paid online service is bad in comparison with its competition as well, not only compared to previous Nintendo systems.

I'll agree that the joycons have pretty cool tech inside them, but I wanna see them utilized and justified before thinking the price is ok. No price increase in 10 years isn't really a selling point when you should be able to make the same things cheaper as time goes by.

The thing is, Nintendo is demanding a higher price for the exact same things as MS and Sony. That's not sucking as much, that's sucking HARDER. Buying a pair of joycons and a second docking station will cost you $170 - that's more than half the price of the entire console with everything in it!

By conceding that it is subjective, you are basically destroying your own arguments. I don't see the Switch as an underpowered home console, I view it as a home console that also has portable functionality. Why? Because I do not think of handhelds when I see motion controls; I do not think of handhelds when I see splitscreen multiplayer. And of course there is increased value in the Switch because there won't be a separate Nintendo handheld that takes games away.

As for the comparisons with Sony and Microsoft, the controller prices for those companies have gone up too, or stayed flat at best. Really no difference to what Nintendo is doing.

The comparisons in the final paragraph are messed up. Buying a pair of Joy-cons makes Switch ready for four players in, say, Mario Kart; that's $80 compared to $180 that a comparable setup would run you on PS4 or XB1. An extra docking station is basically the equivalent of buying an additional PS4 or XB1 to play games in a different room; or in the PS4's case you can get by with a Vita TV which had a higher MSRP than a Switch dock, plus it necessitated an internet connection and had the risk of input lag, so higher price for lower quality.

I agree with the first paragraph, and I'll reiterate what I said before; it's not the price of the actual console that bothers me, it's that everything else is so overpriced.

But MS and Sony still isn't overpricing their products as much as Nintendo is. I can agree that ALL of these accessorories probably is a little overpriced, but Nintendo is the worst offender in this case. And my points of the paid online still stands.

But you can't play all local co-op games that way (at least I don't think you can). I'm not even sure you can play 4 players on the same Switch? That argument only applies to certain games; what about the games when you need two analouge sticks to play? Then we're right back at the start of the argument. But you did bring up a good point there, I gotta admit. I'll try to see them as individual controllers instead of only half a controller - for my own happiness sake. But your last argument doesn't really hold up; that's NOT the equivalents of buying a second PS/XB, since in that case you could have two people playing two different kind of games, at the same time. That's just not the same thing as having two docking station, since it's still only you who can play games, and not someone else as well. Thinking like that, I have to pay $530 for that specific set up AND a game. Adding $70 I could get TWO PS4's with TWO games. I just don't think these accessories justify their high price.