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Shaddup, you Pony! 676 36.13%
 
Switch > PC/PS4/XBO 376 20.10%
 
I can buy them all, anyway 99 5.29%
 
Nintendon't need more 29 1.55%
 
Keep only doing handhelds 81 4.33%
 
Maybe one more gen... 78 4.17%
 
Sounds good! 277 14.80%
 
I have always wanted it... 90 4.81%
 
Don't care about Nintendo 125 6.68%
 
Sonic > Mario 40 2.14%
 
Total:1,871
QuestForTires on 17 March 2017
Kerotan said:
It would make it so much easier for their fans if their games were made for pc/xb1/ps4 instead. Superior console features like trophies and cross game chat.

Cheaper console to buy. Huge library all on one platform. Nintendo could make their games more impressive with the extra pressure.

Only need to sub to one online service.

If the Switch flops it's not good but at least it might push Nintendo closer to that third party status.

Sorry, I don't want to live in your world where the consumer has no choice of gaming platform.  Having one of anything with no competition does not directly result in the cheapest option for the consumer either.  That has been historically bad for the consumer actually.



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maxleresistant on 17 March 2017
SpokenTruth said:
maxleresistant said:

"WiiU was not doubled after launch"

That wasn't my point, my point was that producing more doesn't equal selling more. For all we know those 8 millions could very well be plenty enough.

It's a bet, like they bet the WiiU would sold 10 millions in a year.

Correct but upping production after the intial launch is not a thing any console maker takes lightly.  That's a huge waste or money and resources. 

ICStats said:

 

At this point that's just a projection.  Nintendo repeatedly over projected Wii U sales.

It's not just a projection increase, it's a production increase.  While they over projected Wii U, they never increased production. 

 

Here is my theory. They realized that the current model has a lot of technical problems, and that they need to make a more refined, cheaper to produce new model for 2018.

In the meantime they are ramping up the production of the current model to reduce the cost of manufacturing (more volume equal reduced cost), and to have plenty of it,  until the new model is ready to enter production. Basically the production of the current model will stop at 16 millions.

We 'll see if my thoery pan out.



0D0 on 17 March 2017
maxleresistant said:
I don't think they could survive the competition of AAA development.

The point of having their own system is that they can do their own thing and get away with it.

I understand that many Nintendo games could be shadowed by other AAA titles, but titles like MK, Zelda and Splatoon would sell even more on a PS4.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


Vertigo-X on 17 March 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
monocle_layton said:
Anyone wanting nintendo to go third party aren't thinking it through.

Nope, I've completely thought it through. I'm only interested in 2ish Nintendo franchises, one of which only gets 1 release a generation. So in total you're probably talking about an amount of games I could count on 1 hand that I want from their console. So if I can save like $300 by not needing to buy a console for such a small number of games and play them on a platform I much prefer... why wouldn't I want that?

Plus it would probably mean they'd re-release a lot of their old stuff (including old Pokemon games, one of the franchises I care about), on mobile, which I wouldn't care less about, but they might also port them to Steam at the same time as SE has done with Final Fantasy. Now that would be even better!

"I can't play their games on my chosen platform, therefore they should go third party!"

That's you. That's what you sound like.



The BuShA owns all!

maxleresistant on 17 March 2017
0D0 said:
maxleresistant said:
I don't think they could survive the competition of AAA development.

The point of having their own system is that they can do their own thing and get away with it.

I understand that many Nintendo games could be shadowed by other AAA titles, but titles like MK, Zelda and Splatoon would sell even more on a PS4.

Mayb



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0D0 on 17 March 2017

Personally I'd like it, because I'd only have to own a PS to play all the games. Nintendo is usually having a hard time to make me buy their stuff, but I still end up buying them.

However, from a business perspective, no, I don't think it's a good idea. Despite the fact that Nintendo's making little profit, selling their own hardware and keep their games exclusive is still the best option for them. They can control the process alone keep the entire profit for themselves.

Nintendo wouldn't be out of market if they go third-party either, but unless their situation with NSW gets awful, it's still the better option selling their own hardware and keep their franchises for themselves.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


0D0 on 17 March 2017
etking said:

Just imagine how much better Zelda, Xenoblade and Mario would look and play in 4K 60FPS on PS4 Pro. And game sales would not be limitied by a small userbase consisting mostly of small kindergarten age kids.

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-Super_Boom

Nintendo doesn't care about graphics (and they're not really good at doing it).



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


maxleresistant on 17 March 2017
SpokenTruth said:
maxleresistant said:

 

Here is my theory. They realized that the current model has a lot of technical problems, and that they need to make a more refined, cheaper to produce new model for 2018.

In the meantime they are ramping up the production of the current model to reduce the cost of manufacturing (more volume equal reduced cost), and to have plenty of it,  until the new model is ready to enter production. Basically the production of the current model will stop at 16 millions.

We 'll see if my thoery pan out.

I wish I could subsribe to your theory but I don't.  If they believe the current model is defective, why in the world would they double its production?

They produce more so they can stop production sooner. Those 16 millions will have to last until the end of 2018.



0D0 on 17 March 2017
Jay70sgamer said:
Hapuc12 said:

Yeah no,they have money to last till 2050 i watched top 10 Nintendo hidden facts i think the video was called that.

And people saying the console will flop they are making money from every console being sold so losing money yeah no plus they get 100% profit from there own games and 30-40% of other third party games like PS4/Xbox/PC is.

Switch is Japan's wet dream and if the console sells 30+ milion they have achieved their goal plus the money from online that they will put maybe not a lot of people won't pay but there a good amount of people that will.

And Amibos they are making money from that stuff regardless.

And people stop with this doom and gloom Jesus Christ.

Haptic...Thank you someone who gets it ...best comment so far ....just like someone said ....Port beggars ....I've been gaming since the 70s ...these new gamers don't get it ....Nintendo will never consider going 3rd party as long as their software continues to sell ....people....in gaming the money is in the software not hardware ..smh ...when will people realize that ...they profit because their software sells ...Nintendo didn't gain them billions in the ds and wii era from hardware it was software ...example 35 million Mario kart games sold ..wii sports ,80,000,000 sold ,all first party 100 percent profit...every generation they make a profit because of software and peripherals.....not hardware 

It's a mix of both.

If you sell poorly, like Wii U did, you don't have enough userbase to make money.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


maxleresistant on 17 March 2017
0D0 said:
maxleresistant said:
I don't think they could survive the competition of AAA development.

The point of having their own system is that they can do their own thing and get away with it.

I understand that many Nintendo games could be shadowed by other AAA titles, but titles like MK, Zelda and Splatoon would sell even more on a PS4.

Yeah, but their production cost will go up like crazy.

They won't be able to make games on the cheap like they are doing right now. So yeah, maybe the biggest franchise like MK, Zelda, Splatoon, Mario will still be made, but you can kiss goodbye to a lof others, and games like animal crossing or Fire Emblems would become mobile only.