December 2016 NPD Thread! The Last Guardian and Dead Rising 4 sales up!

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Neodegenerate on 12 January 2017

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Oh I can only imagine the riots on the forums if that were to happen. I want it to happen just for the hilarity.

It's common sense that a new product sells more than old products when they first hit the market. Switch isn't competing with PS4 or Xbox just like the Wii since both were not targeting the same consumer. No one who doesn't buy an Xbox is going to buy Switch, just as no one who doesn't buy a PS4 is going to buy Switch. They will buy they other instead. Switch is irrelevant to the other two and has it's own lane with no competition except the 3DS ironically. So Switch sales won't be at the expense of the others. I expect the sales to be lower than Nintendo fans expect since it is not releasing in the fall and there isn't much hype compared to the WiiU. Nothing like when the Wii was coming.

Wow where do I start with this one...

You do know that the Switch has no real hype because it doesn't have its unveiling for another 3 and a half hours right?

Also, video game consoles do compete with each other, even those that target a different area of the demographic. Not to mention you contradicted yourself with how you phrased your no one who doesn't portion.

I expect the Switch sales to be.... wait, I am going to be logical and decide that when I see what the product actually is, what it retails for, and what releases with it.

Also, who's alt are you? :p

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Intrinsic on 12 January 2017

Soundwave said:

Bandorr said:

"Even though it sounds like Sony eeked out a victory" based on what?

I just got in, did Sony not win December?

Sounds like they are down year over year though, whereas MS is up year over year for December. That means they closed the gap. To be honest Sony should be blowing MS away and be way up this year with a new model, a new redesign, and $250 ... it seems to me like MS is seriously slowing hte PS4 down in the US by becoming more competetive.

The thing about MS kinda spin.... is that it tells us absolutely nothing. MS may be up YOY by 10k and sony could be down YOY by 10k and MS statement would still be true but yet a completely different picture.

And are we now forgetting all those bundles that many were saying would give MS the win? Or are we going to pretend that the XB1 wasnt also similarly priced?

And by closed the gap you are only talking about the last half of the year right? Cause if we look at the entire year, the gap increased by around 300k. But yh, lets just pretend that only in NA all that matters is the last 6 months of the year.

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Soundwave on 12 January 2017

GribbleGrunger said:
Is there any wonder some of Microsoft's fans are shameless?

What's wrong with that statement if that's true? MS has been dramatically more competetive since the XBox One S launched and even the much balley-hooed PS4 Pro and PS4 Slim have not stopped XBox One from having a very good holiday season apparently. December was their best month ever, meanwhile Sony is somewho down year over year despite having a new model and revision and a $250 promotion.

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Soundwave on 12 January 2017

Intrinsic said:

Soundwave said:

I just got in, did Sony not win December?

Sounds like they are down year over year though, whereas MS is up year over year for December. That means they closed the gap. To be honest Sony should be blowing MS away and be way up this year with a new model, a new redesign, and $250 ... it seems to me like MS is seriously slowing hte PS4 down in the US by becoming more competetive.

The thing about MS kinda spin.... is that it tells us absolutely nothing. MS may be up YOY by 10k and sony could be down YOY by 10k and MS statement would still be true but yet a completely different picture.

And are we now forgetting all those bundles that many were saying would give MS the win? Or are we going to pretend that the XB1 wasnt also similarly priced?

And by closed the gap you are only talking about the last half of the year right? Cause if we look at the entire year, the gap increased by around 300k. But yh, lets just pretend that only in NA all that matters is the last 6 months of the year.

Sony being down even 10k is really poor IMO. They have a new hardware model (PS4 Pro), they have a new revision (PS4 Slim), AND they have a $250 promo revision for December.

If they are down, clearly something is happening and it looks like that "something" is that XBox One is becoming far more competetive, taking away sales from the PS4, because there's no way the PS4 should be down this year with all that going for it.

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GribbleGrunger on 12 January 2017

NPD thread, where no games is better than some games and being outsold is catching up ...

The PS5 Exists.

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Normchacho on 12 January 2017

Hhmmm...interesting month. I think it's safe to say the Xbox One S did a much better job of stimulating sales than the PS4 Slim did.

I honestly couldn't tell you who I think is going to win January...I suppose the PS4 has a Call of Duty bundle, but Call of Duty isn't what it once was, and both consoles and games were so heavily discounted over the holidays that I don't know how much of an effect it will have.

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Soundwave on 12 January 2017

Hiku said:

Soundwave said:

I just got in, did Sony not win December?

Sounds like they are down year over year though, whereas MS is up year over year for December. That means they closed the gap.

Sony sold more PS4's in December than MS sold XBO, which means Sony increased the gap in December.

The only way for MS to decrease the gap in any given month is to sell more units than PS4.

It's one MS model (XBox One S) taking on *two* PS4 models at the same time that also had a $250 discount for December. Sorry, but Sony should've *crushed* MS, instead some how XBox One S has its best month ever and Sony is down from last year.

For them to be down means MS is cutting into their supposed advantage, this should not even be competetive, yet it looks to me like MS has found a second wind in the US after the XBox One S has launched. Sony should have won both November and December easily.