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Kerotan said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Oh trust me. He let me know that in PMs just know. Four times in a row infact. Lol. 

Haha really?!  Lol the page failed to load and I kept refreshing it xD 

 

 

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Aeolus451 said:

He's not defending bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. He's saying what he's doing is not bad bahavior but somehow that's the focus instead of people with actual bad behavior. 

Oh trust me. He let me know that in PMs just know. Four times in a row infact. Lol. 

lol I hate that. It happens alot with PMs or wall posting. 



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Kerotan said:

Good because my positive posting is genuine despite the attempts of some to portray it as overly enthusiastic in order to troll.  

And my posts have a positive impact overall on here.  If I don't enter comg or mediacreate threads everyday the total engagement by users in them drops dramatically.  

People will like and dislike what I say depending on whether Playstation succeeding or its success being celebrated is to their liking but at the end of the day it gets these topics going.  Sometimes I thibk people would rather they be inactive.  

The likes of acevil who said he left because of me,  well I don't see him posting when I'm not around so as far as I can see he would have left anyway.  

Also padib made a good point.  Mods dont engage with posters like they used to under smeags glorious rain.  I and many others would be permabanned if it wasn't for the efforts of smeags,  conegamer,  Mr khan etc.  Now I've not been banned much this last 6 months but instead of letting little things about my posting style irk you for ages before finally finding an excuse to ban me,  how about you just engage a little over that period and I'd guarantee you'd see improvements.  

I know Carl for instance doesn't like me so would rather take a sit and wait until "he slips up" approach (not my words).  But that reminds me of Mr khan.  He used to dislike me like Carl does now but still made the effort to improve my posting style.  And it helped. 

Your posts having an overall positive impact is debatable when you're directly causing a lot of problems on the forum, wether you want to admit that or not. The reaction to your moderations in this very thread and the support the mod team has for each decision is proof of that. People like to browse the forum and discuss things without seeing the same old irritating posts about how X, Y or Z is so much better than A, B or C, or seeing the usual suspects offering nothing but negativity in topics.

These posts drag threads into back and forth, petty little arguments that turn people off. People like Acevil (because you used him as an example) are turned away from discussion because people like yourself are encouraging a negative environment and causing flamewars between people. Rather than discussing games, sales or platforms it's PS fan A trying to move goalposts and downplay Nintendo whatever, and vise-versa, while sitting back and watching the fireworks. Acevil has been here for almost 10 years, has 0 moderations and 13,000 posts so if you're driving someone like him away from the forums after a long and clean history, then it highlights that you've been causing a problem.

It's not for me to talk about other moderators past or present, but I'll say that the very reason we have this thread is so that we can engage with posters about problems they have. You've been told by moderators and regular members about your post style and the behavior they notice and guess what? Since you were moderated for it and chastised in here, you cut it down. It worked. You slip up from time to time but that's no real problem, we're all human. This time you weren't moderated for your positivity, you were moderated for concern trolling and baiting. If you take the same lessons from this as you did from your previous moderations, you'll go a long time ban-free.

If you're not happy discussing things in this thread then every single moderator is happy to talk through PMs, and both head mods are free to talk about things other moderators can't.

My own opinion of you is irrelevant to the job I do as a moderator, because I'm not the only one who sees your posts or handles reports about you. I can (and will) bring up your posts in mod chat if I think there's something fishy going on, but I'm not going to pull the trigger without asking for other opinions.



                            

vivster said:

While we're on the topic of people continuously downplaying and attacking a certain platform while uptalking their own.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=231178

Time for someone new to get the Kerotan treatment. This hate on PC has been going on for a while and he has been banned quite a few times by now. Why not let him taste the banhammer from now on at the slightest trace of baiting? It's even made easy by the fact that the thead title is a complete lie and specifically constructed to bait people.

edit: Another recent thread that only exists to take shots at Microsoft.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=231138

 

I could dig up more but he made his user profile conveniently unavailable.

Right! Everytime I see this ruler back on Vgchartz, its always about hate threads on PC, MS and maybe Nintendo. 

 

He is doing the same as this other user ( I forgot his name) when all he do on VGChartz was make threads on Negative news about MS and Nintendo. 



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Jranation said:
vivster said:

While we're on the topic of people continuously downplaying and attacking a certain platform while uptalking their own.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=231178

Time for someone new to get the Kerotan treatment. This hate on PC has been going on for a while and he has been banned quite a few times by now. Why not let him taste the banhammer from now on at the slightest trace of baiting? It's even made easy by the fact that the thead title is a complete lie and specifically constructed to bait people.

edit: Another recent thread that only exists to take shots at Microsoft.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=231138

 

I could dig up more but he made his user profile conveniently unavailable.

Right! Everytime I see this ruler back on Vgchartz, its always about hate threads on PC, MS and maybe Nintendo. 

 

He is doing the same as this other user ( I forgot his name) when all he do on VGChartz was make threads on Negative news about MS and Nintendo. 

Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this. Ever since AoE IV was announced for PC and before that, FFXV, he took to making a thread for each to downplay the news. He even ended up using an expensive 1080ti model, while there are other cheaper ones out there from different brand manufacturers, yet if he went out to do some actual research, he'd have given a different thread. He didn't because it wouldn't look good from his pov, so he rolls with the most expensive 1080ti out there and claims it'll be locked at 4k 30fps, despite there being a video out there already playing at 4k 60fps and a screenshot of the settings menu that clearly displays 60fps in the drop down list.

Everyone knows AoE as a PC RTS and yet he goes and makes the biggest fuss over it not coming to a console he isn't even remotely interested nor invested in. All that tells me is that he'd rather use another system as cannon fodder to make the other one feel bad. There is no need for that.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Kerotan said:
No they think they know me. I'm entitled to say a console should be beating it's predecessors. That's not trolling. If that annoys people then they have the problem not me. And my post made it crystal clear I think sales are good.

My enthusiasm is also not fake. I am genuinely happy to see Playstation succeed. I cheer them like you might cheer a football team. It's pretty straightforward.

While we are on this topic though. Why is my enthusiasm the main problem when we have people like jranation who is constantly being negative about platforms he doesn't like. Mocking the vita sales to get a rise out of Dr vita is a regular thing he does.

If that was me id be banned. Not sure why he gets let off. His posting habits are basically a reaction to me. He's not genuine like I am. Since I've been banned the amount he posts on the usual thread dramatically decreased. Just shows you his intentions.

Whether the threads are packed or empty I'll be there cheering on Playstation if it's doing well. Because it's genuine and not fake. I really do get a thrill out of a platform that entertains me succeeding.

Interesting comparison. You choose the sport most infamous for fans going over the top with their support of a team which can result in them breaking things, attacking people and causing all kinds of trouble. So if you're cheering for Sony in that way...

I didn't choose it.  It chose me.  A neighbour when I was 4/5 I think,  whenever spyro 1 had just released on the ps4, asked me to come over and play it on the PS1. I've been booked ever since on Playstation and apart from a few games on pc it's been entertaining me ever since.  

 

Last gen on ps3 my mindset changed when it became a reality Playstation might not be forever.  The ps3 nearly ended it all.  So I started to care about Playstation selling well both hardware and software.  Because a healthy Playstation means I will have a happy time in my favourite hobby.  People are ashamed to admit they cheer on their preferred platform but I'm proud of it. 

Carl2291 said:
Kerotan said:

Good because my positive posting is genuine despite the attempts of some to portray it as overly enthusiastic in order to troll.  

And my posts have a positive impact overall on here.  If I don't enter comg or mediacreate threads everyday the total engagement by users in them drops dramatically.  

People will like and dislike what I say depending on whether Playstation succeeding or its success being celebrated is to their liking but at the end of the day it gets these topics going.  Sometimes I thibk people would rather they be inactive.  

The likes of acevil who said he left because of me,  well I don't see him posting when I'm not around so as far as I can see he would have left anyway.  

Also padib made a good point.  Mods dont engage with posters like they used to under smeags glorious rain.  I and many others would be permabanned if it wasn't for the efforts of smeags,  conegamer,  Mr khan etc.  Now I've not been banned much this last 6 months but instead of letting little things about my posting style irk you for ages before finally finding an excuse to ban me,  how about you just engage a little over that period and I'd guarantee you'd see improvements.  

I know Carl for instance doesn't like me so would rather take a sit and wait until "he slips up" approach (not my words).  But that reminds me of Mr khan.  He used to dislike me like Carl does now but still made the effort to improve my posting style.  And it helped. 

Your posts having an overall positive impact is debatable when you're directly causing a lot of problems on the forum, wether you want to admit that or not. The reaction to your moderations in this very thread and the support the mod team has for each decision is proof of that. People like to browse the forum and discuss things without seeing the same old irritating posts about how X, Y or Z is so much better than A, B or C, or seeing the usual suspects offering nothing but negativity in topics.

These posts drag threads into back and forth, petty little arguments that turn people off. People like Acevil (because you used him as an example) are turned away from discussion because people like yourself are encouraging a negative environment and causing flamewars between people. Rather than discussing games, sales or platforms it's PS fan A trying to move goalposts and downplay Nintendo whatever, and vise-versa, while sitting back and watching the fireworks. Acevil has been here for almost 10 years, has 0 moderations and 13,000 posts so if you're driving someone like him away from the forums after a long and clean history, then it highlights that you've been causing a problem.

It's not for me to talk about other moderators past or present, but I'll say that the very reason we have this thread is so that we can engage with posters about problems they have. You've been told by moderators and regular members about your post style and the behavior they notice and guess what? Since you were moderated for it and chastised in here, you cut it down. It worked. You slip up from time to time but that's no real problem, we're all human. This time you weren't moderated for your positivity, you were moderated for concern trolling and baiting. If you take the same lessons from this as you did from your previous moderations, you'll go a long time ban-free.

If you're not happy discussing things in this thread then every single moderator is happy to talk through PMs, and both head mods are free to talk about things other moderators can't.

My own opinion of you is irrelevant to the job I do as a moderator, because I'm not the only one who sees your posts or handles reports about you. I can (and will) bring up your posts in mod chat if I think there's something fishy going on, but I'm not going to pull the trigger without asking for other opinions.

I agree with a lot of that and I think others pushing an agenda in here should take note. If you were to read Rol's and q few other posters in here over the last week you'd think I'm trolling people everyday with positivity towards Sony.  Which just ain't true. 

 

Regarding acevil he was actually very annoying on japanese sales threads for a long time.  Constantly negative about the ps4 and downplaying it's sales performance in Japan.  so he had a negativity mindset.  I'm not sure what triggered it or when exactly but it reminded me of the negativity on sales threads on gaf which I hate.  

 

So wiry his negative mindset he was never going to have around much longer anyway.  Everyone reaches the end of the road at some point and he'd reached his. 

Jranation said:
vivster said:

While we're on the topic of people continuously downplaying and attacking a certain platform while uptalking their own.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=231178

Time for someone new to get the Kerotan treatment. This hate on PC has been going on for a while and he has been banned quite a few times by now. Why not let him taste the banhammer from now on at the slightest trace of baiting? It's even made easy by the fact that the thead title is a complete lie and specifically constructed to bait people.

edit: Another recent thread that only exists to take shots at Microsoft.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=231138

 

I could dig up more but he made his user profile conveniently unavailable.

Right! Everytime I see this ruler back on Vgchartz, its always about hate threads on PC, MS and maybe Nintendo. 

 

He is doing the same as this other user ( I forgot his name) when all he do on VGChartz was make threads on Negative news about MS and Nintendo. 

He's no different to you always being negative regarding the vita and trying to annoy Dr vita. And you're pretty negative almost always when discussing Sony. 



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Kerotan said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Interesting comparison. You choose the sport most infamous for fans going over the top with their support of a team which can result in them breaking things, attacking people and causing all kinds of trouble. So if you're cheering for Sony in that way...

I didn't choose it.  It chose me.  A neighbour when I was 4/5 I think,  whenever spyro 1 had just released on the ps4, asked me to come over and play it on the PS1. I've been booked ever since on Playstation and apart from a few games on pc it's been entertaining me ever since.  

 

Last gen on ps3 my mindset changed when it became a reality Playstation might not be forever.  The ps3 nearly ended it all.  So I started to care about Playstation selling well both hardware and software.  Because a healthy Playstation means I will have a happy time in my favourite hobby.  People are ashamed to admit they cheer on their preferred platform but I'm proud of it. 

Carl2291 said:

Your posts having an overall positive impact is debatable when you're directly causing a lot of problems on the forum, wether you want to admit that or not. The reaction to your moderations in this very thread and the support the mod team has for each decision is proof of that. People like to browse the forum and discuss things without seeing the same old irritating posts about how X, Y or Z is so much better than A, B or C, or seeing the usual suspects offering nothing but negativity in topics.

These posts drag threads into back and forth, petty little arguments that turn people off. People like Acevil (because you used him as an example) are turned away from discussion because people like yourself are encouraging a negative environment and causing flamewars between people. Rather than discussing games, sales or platforms it's PS fan A trying to move goalposts and downplay Nintendo whatever, and vise-versa, while sitting back and watching the fireworks. Acevil has been here for almost 10 years, has 0 moderations and 13,000 posts so if you're driving someone like him away from the forums after a long and clean history, then it highlights that you've been causing a problem.

It's not for me to talk about other moderators past or present, but I'll say that the very reason we have this thread is so that we can engage with posters about problems they have. You've been told by moderators and regular members about your post style and the behavior they notice and guess what? Since you were moderated for it and chastised in here, you cut it down. It worked. You slip up from time to time but that's no real problem, we're all human. This time you weren't moderated for your positivity, you were moderated for concern trolling and baiting. If you take the same lessons from this as you did from your previous moderations, you'll go a long time ban-free.

If you're not happy discussing things in this thread then every single moderator is happy to talk through PMs, and both head mods are free to talk about things other moderators can't.

My own opinion of you is irrelevant to the job I do as a moderator, because I'm not the only one who sees your posts or handles reports about you. I can (and will) bring up your posts in mod chat if I think there's something fishy going on, but I'm not going to pull the trigger without asking for other opinions.

I agree with a lot of that and I think others pushing an agenda in here should take note. If you were to read Rol's and q few other posters in here over the last week you'd think I'm trolling people everyday with positivity towards Sony.  Which just ain't true. 

 

Regarding acevil he was actually very annoying on japanese sales threads for a long time.  Constantly negative about the ps4 and downplaying it's sales performance in Japan.  so he had a negativity mindset.  I'm not sure what triggered it or when exactly but it reminded me of the negativity on sales threads on gaf which I hate.  

 

So wiry his negative mindset he was never going to have around much longer anyway.  Everyone reaches the end of the road at some point and he'd reached his. 

Jranation said:

Right! Everytime I see this ruler back on Vgchartz, its always about hate threads on PC, MS and maybe Nintendo. 

 

He is doing the same as this other user ( I forgot his name) when all he do on VGChartz was make threads on Negative news about MS and Nintendo. 

He's no different to you always being negative regarding the vita and trying to annoy Dr vita. And you're pretty negative almost always when discussing Sony. 

Okay, please provide evidence of Ace being negative on sony and the PS4 in japan, please do, I need to see this. Also on the Jran thing, Dr.vita does the exact same thing with nintendo so let's not do this. Also There was a point in time when Jran posted only about nintendo, he never downplayed sony or the vita he just posted positively about nintendo and what did he get for it? Triple team assault on him from Dr.vita, You and Powerxxx. He retaliated and became how he is today, you guys created this monster (tho I thank you all cause now the anime thread was a lot less disturbing for me).

Anyway that's all I came to say, you may not see it this way because you never see it that way but I don't. I have never once seen Ace Downplay Sony and last time I checked he was also someone who plays more on Sony as well so why would he be downplaying his console of choice?

That's all I want to know :)



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uran10 said:
Kerotan said:

I didn't choose it.  It chose me.  A neighbour when I was 4/5 I think,  whenever spyro 1 had just released on the ps4, asked me to come over and play it on the PS1. I've been booked ever since on Playstation and apart from a few games on pc it's been entertaining me ever since.  

 

Last gen on ps3 my mindset changed when it became a reality Playstation might not be forever.  The ps3 nearly ended it all.  So I started to care about Playstation selling well both hardware and software.  Because a healthy Playstation means I will have a happy time in my favourite hobby.  People are ashamed to admit they cheer on their preferred platform but I'm proud of it. 

I agree with a lot of that and I think others pushing an agenda in here should take note. If you were to read Rol's and q few other posters in here over the last week you'd think I'm trolling people everyday with positivity towards Sony.  Which just ain't true. 

 

Regarding acevil he was actually very annoying on japanese sales threads for a long time.  Constantly negative about the ps4 and downplaying it's sales performance in Japan.  so he had a negativity mindset.  I'm not sure what triggered it or when exactly but it reminded me of the negativity on sales threads on gaf which I hate.  

 

So wiry his negative mindset he was never going to have around much longer anyway.  Everyone reaches the end of the road at some point and he'd reached his. 

He's no different to you always being negative regarding the vita and trying to annoy Dr vita. And you're pretty negative almost always when discussing Sony. 

Okay, please provide evidence of Ace being negative on sony and the PS4 in japan, please do, I need to see this. Also on the Jran thing, Dr.vita does the exact same thing with nintendo so let's not do this. Also There was a point in time when Jran posted only about nintendo, he never downplayed sony or the vita he just posted positively about nintendo and what did he get for it? Triple team assault on him from Dr.vita, You and Powerxxx. He retaliated and became how he is today, you guys created this monster (tho I thank you all cause now the anime thread was a lot less disturbing for me).

Anyway that's all I came to say, you may not see it this way because you never see it that way but I don't. I have never once seen Ace Downplay Sony and last time I checked he was also someone who plays more on Sony as well so why would he be downplaying his console of choice?

That's all I want to know :)

He is comical, I use to call him out on his obvious bias, and he thinks that means I am negative on Sony. Ya, so negative that I am not impressed by statement like "PS4 is beasting". Now let me go back to playing my obvious hated console the PS4. 

Lets also ignore how many arguments I got with 3DS fans or Wii U fans as well. With the silly comparisons. 

I'm not worried about him saying I have negative sony bias or anything honest, he thought Carl was biased against Sony just few months ago, again super hilarious if you know Carl as long as most do. 



 

Acevil said:
uran10 said:

Okay, please provide evidence of Ace being negative on sony and the PS4 in japan, please do, I need to see this. Also on the Jran thing, Dr.vita does the exact same thing with nintendo so let's not do this. Also There was a point in time when Jran posted only about nintendo, he never downplayed sony or the vita he just posted positively about nintendo and what did he get for it? Triple team assault on him from Dr.vita, You and Powerxxx. He retaliated and became how he is today, you guys created this monster (tho I thank you all cause now the anime thread was a lot less disturbing for me).

Anyway that's all I came to say, you may not see it this way because you never see it that way but I don't. I have never once seen Ace Downplay Sony and last time I checked he was also someone who plays more on Sony as well so why would he be downplaying his console of choice?

That's all I want to know :)

He is comical, I use to call him out on his obvious bias, and he thinks that means I am negative on Sony. Ya, so negative that I am not impressed by statement like "PS4 is beasting". Now let me go back to playing my obvious hated console the PS4. 

Lets also ignore how many arguments I got with 3DS fans or Wii U fans as well. With the silly comparisons. 

I'm not worried about him saying I have negative sony bias or anything honest, he thought Carl was biased against Sony just few months ago, again super hilarious if you know Carl as long as most do. 

I didn't say you were pro the other consoles. I said you were being negative regarding ps4 sales in Japan when despite the market it was doing pretty good.  You were also overly negative about the Japanese market as a whole and that was annoying too. 

 

@uran 

Saying Dr vita does it too doesn't make it right.  My point regarding this is you nearly always see me getting discussed as a problem.  But you never see these same people be partial and bring up the others.  I wonder why Rol doesn't dedicate as much time to trying to get jranation banned as he does me?  

 

As I said at least I was original with my Playstation praise.  Jranation however is just a reaction to me because he was bothered by what I said.  

 

I do admit last year me and others went overboard but not anymore.  Like we used to celebrate Playstation doing well and beating Nintendo in Japan when it did.  Celebrating it winning is fine but we'd be harsh in our mocking of Nintendo.  Posts like that obviously made jranation a lessor poster and he's still stuck in that bubble but as I said it's not like that anymore. 

 

And on the point of Rol's hypocrisy.  When tbone was basically the Nintendo version of me,  Rol went to the effort of protecting him rather then try and get him banned.  again the reason is the same as jranation,  they are Nintendo fans and not Sony fans. It's why it's hard to take him seriously on his little crusades because of the double standards. 



Kerotan said:
Acevil said:

He is comical, I use to call him out on his obvious bias, and he thinks that means I am negative on Sony. Ya, so negative that I am not impressed by statement like "PS4 is beasting". Now let me go back to playing my obvious hated console the PS4. 

Lets also ignore how many arguments I got with 3DS fans or Wii U fans as well. With the silly comparisons. 

I'm not worried about him saying I have negative sony bias or anything honest, he thought Carl was biased against Sony just few months ago, again super hilarious if you know Carl as long as most do. 

I didn't say you were pro the other consoles. I said you were being negative regarding ps4 sales in Japan when despite the market it was doing pretty good.  You were also overly negative about the Japanese market as a whole and that was annoying too. 

 

@uran 

Saying Dr vita does it too doesn't make it right.  My point regarding this is you nearly always see me getting discussed as a problem.  But you never see these same people be partial and bring up the others.  I wonder why Rol doesn't dedicate as much time to trying to get jranation banned as he does me?  

 

As I said at least I was original with my Playstation praise.  Jranation however is just a reaction to me because he was bothered by what I said.  

 

I do admit last year me and others went overboard but not anymore.  Like we used to celebrate Playstation doing well and beating Nintendo in Japan when it did.  Celebrating it winning is fine but we'd be harsh in our mocking of Nintendo.  Posts like that obviously made jranation a lessor poster and he's still stuck in that bubble but as I said it's not like that anymore. 

 

And on the point of Rol's hypocrisy.  When tbone was basically the Nintendo version of me,  Rol went to the effort of protecting him rather then try and get him banned.  again the reason is the same as jranation,  they are Nintendo fans and not Sony fans. It's why it's hard to take him seriously on his little crusades because of the double standards. 

You thinking Rol is on my side is funny. You don't kno us that well. Other than his bodyguard thread he calls me out multiple times. I was even known for being a drug addict thanks to him.

 

Oh and since im on the topic, 1 thing i learnt from here was when people and i mean many people call you out and you believe your right and they are wrong maybe you should listen as to why they are ganging up on you. My first year here i was known for hosting tournaments, making waaaaaay too many threads and then mocking the vita in the mc/comg threads.

 

Thing was i didnt notice i was bashin it (vita) as bad as i was doin something similar to what you do now. I made comparisons to 3ds/etc. Kres and others got annoyed and told me so i had to think outside my thinkbox and i fixed the problem. Ever since the only time i get in trouble is when i overly defend nintendo which i kno some people get mad for but whatever.

 

My point is this. If you have alot of people tellin you you have a problem.... Then maybe you just might then? Its not certain but its very likely. I dont want to get involved and ive been holdin back with you for the sake of others. You dont bother me directly no more so we are on good terms. Only thing i cant stand is your switch vs 3ds/wiiu comparison but we'll leave that alone :)



CGI-Quality said:
Well this escalated! Enhance your calm! ;P

I perfer the British Classic Keep Calm and Carry On.