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vivster on 27 January 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

That would mean we have to moderate Nintendo. Just calling something something doesn't make it a fact. A handheld gaming device has a pretty tight definition and Nintendo won't change that by calling an elephant a unicorn.

What about if the elephant has a horn on its head?

Then it's a horny elephant. God dammit, read a book some time.



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Aeolus451 on 27 January 2018

Two people can look at an objective fact and draw wildly different conclusions from it. 😽



vivster on 27 January 2018
Aeolus451 said:
Two people can look at an objective fact and draw wildly different conclusions from it. 😽

For example?

As long as they are based on facts and are not extremely unlikely to a point where it's irrelevant it should be fine. That's what discussions are for. To straighten out conclusions and come to a consensus.

The problems this type of moderation wants to tackle are the much more common issues where conclusions are based on absolutely nothing.

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vivster on 27 January 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

For example?

Fact: Tomorrow is Sunday.

Person A: Ok, tomorrow is Sunday.

Person B: FAKE NEWS!!!! TOMORROW IS OBVIOUSLY WEDNESDAY!!!!!!

How's that for an example?

Which would give us one correct conclusion and one ban. Where's the problem?



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kirby007 on 27 January 2018

objective fact : more women started dieing to cancer when they started wearing suits back in the 1900's
thus wearing suits gets you cancer



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Barkley on 27 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
Jranation said:
How about people callin the Switch as a handheld, while Nintendo is calling it as a home console.

What is the facts there? Or is there anything wrong with this?

The fact is that Nintendo doesn't quite call Switch a 'home console', but rather a 'home video game system' that can also be played anywhere. Nintendo's marketing is a fancy way to describe a hybrid and the reason why they emphasize the home portion is to have an easier time to justify the software prices which obviously don't align with the software prices of the 3DS. Of course the games themselves justify their prices, but Nintendo didn't take any risks when it comes to perception. What should be clear at this point in time is that Switch has succeeded both the Wii U and 3DS in every crucial metric, so it is without a doubt home console and handheld in one.

What this means is that anyone who says that Switch is either a home console or a handheld is factually wrong because Switch is both. It isn't hard to tell why anyone would call Switch a handheld; it's virtually always about either assigning inferiority to the console or to diminish its sales success, i.e. thinly disguised trolling.

Or to cover both sides a "handheld" to defend it's low power and performance issues in certain titles. I think rather they emphasise it as a device for the home as it's portability aspect is obvious and sells itself by it's appearance.



Aeolus451 on 27 January 2018
vivster said:
Aeolus451 said:
Two people can look at an objective fact and draw wildly different conclusions from it. 😽

For example?

As long as they are based on facts and are not extremely unlikely to a point where it's irrelevant it should be fine. That's what discussions are for. To straighten out conclusions and come to a consensus.

The problems this type of moderation wants to tackle are the much more common issues where conclusions are based on absolutely nothing.

You guys gave a decent example of one. 

If that doesn't work for ya, here's another example. The US economy is doing well under a Trump presidency. People will draw a multitude of conclusions from that and many will be right or wrong. 

Another example would be when sales figures are released and people will draw wildly different conclusions on how those numbers got that high or low. Alot of fighting is generated over it.

The majority of opinions or conclusions expressed on this forum fit into that last bit you mentioned.



OTBWY on 27 January 2018

After having seen people like Quickrick on this site, I voted yes. Hell yes.



Kerotan on 27 January 2018
Jranation said:
How about people callin the Switch as a handheld, while Nintendo is calling it as a home console.

What is the facts there? Or is there anything wrong with this?

Switch is clearly a hybrid. How can you not see that for yourself? Saying its a home console or handheld only is half right at least. In reality it's both. The successor to the 3ds and Wii u. 



tbone51 on 27 January 2018
vivster said:
Jranation said:
How about people callin the Switch as a handheld, while Nintendo is calling it as a home console.

What is the facts there? Or is there anything wrong with this?

That would mean we have to moderate Nintendo. Just calling something something doesn't make it a fact. A handheld gaming device has a pretty tight definition and Nintendo won't change that by calling an elephant a unicorn.

This why i hate when people say ssb isnt a fighter. Sakurai had to say it is a party brawler lol