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Qwark said:
Wasn't there a Vita model with access to 3g?

Yup, Vita had 3G version too and nobody really cared about that version.



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Mobile hostpot and a battery pack, so easy. I have unlimited data on my phone and I can use the wifi of my apt almost everywhere cause I live in the 21 century :p, so why another bill?



The only reason not to include mobile 4G/3G is to cut costs.

No mobile data, severely underclocked hardware, low 720P screen.

If you can't upgrade the battery, then I would hope the device is water proof.
And if it isn't water proof, then it is a stupid design decision, lithium battery's have a finite life-span, it is a matter of *when* they fail, not if.



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Miyamotoo said:
KBG29 said:

The problem is people gamers are expecting very little from gaming devices, but the general public is expecting them to be just as functional as the next device. Things like Netflix, Hulu, PlayStation Vue, Pandora, Spotify, Blu-ray Playback, and a web browser as absolutly vital to any device, games device or not. 3G/LTE are in the same league as these apps and services. People expect a mobile device to be connected in 2017, and lmited wifi availablity is not an acceptable answer. So will tether, but most people don't want that hassel on a regular basis, or can not use that due too restrictions.

Wrong, handheld consoles are not something new, people know what can expect from handheld console,people know they are not phones that they are gaming devices on 1st place. 3DS and Vita proves that 3G/LTE are not important feature for handheld consoles.

I honestly can not believe you are using 3DS and Vita as the example here. PSP and DS sold nearly 250M devices by being leaders in the mobile elctronics world. Vita and 3DS have sold not even sold 1/3 of that, thanks to the lack of evolving with the times. Now, than with this blunder, I will be surprised if Switch can make it to 30 million units. Console and handhelds are not impervious to changing market. If they continue don't grow, and stay competitive with the competition (PC, Laptops, Tablets, Set Top Boxes, Smart TV, Smartphones) then they will become unsustainable.

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

shit!! would be great to use online features on the go, not necessarily multiplayer...

it's even worse if you think what that means, that it probably won't have that many online features and applications to make 3G connectivity worthwhile :S

If they are lacking the basic applications (Web Browser, Netflix, Hulu, Music, Photos, etc.) then I will be completely :S

Bajablo said:
KBG29 said:

Multiple sources are saying that the FTC testing for the Nintendo Switch show no signs of 3G or LTE support, and no way swap for a larger battery.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/12/28/nintendo-switch-to-support-bluetooth-and-5ghz-wi-fi-no-3g-or-lte/

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/nintendo-switch-possibly-region-free-does-not-have-3g-or-lte-support-1642707

 

This is highly dissapointing news to me. The Switch is the first Nintendo console I have been looking forward to for a long time. I still really like the concept, but without any kind of mobile connectivity, I just reall don't see the purpose of this being a portable device. The absolute refusal from both Sony and Nintendo to offer connectivity to their portable devices blows my mind. In a day and age where you can get data plans for the Kitchen sink, this is a major low blow to those that support devices built for games and entertainment.

Hopefully, this is not the full story, and we will learn more come January 12th. I have not fully given up on the Switch, yet, but if it lacks mobile data, then even if I do buy it, it will go from a device I planned to use daily, to a device, I will only use for the rare Nintendo exclusive.

wifi from phone hotspot.. and a USB battery
easy solutions to your 'problem'

Easier solution, continue to use my 3G Vita, because it appears mobile/handheld tech decided to come to a dead stop, and then proceed to reverse over the last five years. It blows me away that my Phone from 5 years ago is still a more versitle, and entertaining device than the latest Xperia I had.

Qwark said:
Wasn't there a Vita model with access to 3g?

Yes, and it remains the best mobile device ever made. Unfortunatly, Sony decided to cease support and seriously gimp it, in order focus its efforts on the Xperia Google Phone line instead. To the tune to over 3 billion in losses in the years since to top it off. Had they released constant updates to the Vita, including 4G model, and a full fledged phone model, perhapps, we would actually have some options in the mobile industry instead of the current dead end douply we have right now. And, we might have some actual mass market games coming to mobile, instead of the great but niche titles we have right now.



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KBG29 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Wrong, handheld consoles are not something new, people know what can expect from handheld console,people know they are not phones that they are gaming devices on 1st place. 3DS and Vita proves that 3G/LTE are not important feature for handheld consoles.

I honestly can not believe you are using 3DS and Vita as the example here. PSP and DS sold nearly 250M devices by being leaders in the mobile elctronics world. Vita and 3DS have sold not even sold 1/3 of that, thanks to the lack of evolving with the times. Now, than with this blunder, I will be surprised if Switch can make it to 30 million units. Console and handhelds are not impervious to changing market. If they continue don't grow, and stay competitive with the competition (PC, Laptops, Tablets, Set Top Boxes, Smart TV, Smartphones) then they will become unsustainable.

Of Course I use 3DS/Vita like examples because they are last handhelds. 3DS/Vita sold less than DS/PSP because today everyone can play games on every phone/tablet and that wasn't case in DS/PSP era, not because handhelds didn't evoloved with times. 3DS/Vita and espacily Switch are also evolving, you will have internet browser, YouTube, Hulu or something similar...but not having 3G/LTE is not deal braker in any case for market, becuse people still look at Switch for games on 1st plays not for 3G/LTE, Switch is still gaming deviace on 1st place not phone or tablet. And if mobile internet is so important for someone it could easily use hotspot from phone. So it not really big deal in any case like you want to sound.

 

KBG29 said:
Qwark said:
Wasn't there a Vita model with access to 3g?

Yes, and it remains the best mobile device ever made. Unfortunatly, Sony decided to cease support and seriously gimp it, in order focus its efforts on the Xperia Google Phone line instead. To the tune to over 3 billion in losses in the years since to top it off. Had they released constant updates to the Vita, including 4G model, and a full fledged phone model, perhapps, we would actually have some options in the mobile industry instead of the current dead end douply we have right now. And, we might have some actual mass market games coming to mobile, instead of the great but niche titles we have right now.

Sony cease support because nobody really wanted 3G/LTE Vita and beacuse model without 3G/LTE was incomparible more popular.

 

 

Pemalite said:
The only reason not to include mobile 4G/3G is to cut costs.

No mobile data, severely underclocked hardware, low 720P screen.

If you can't upgrade the battery, then I would hope the device is water proof.
And if it isn't water proof, then it is a stupid design decision, lithium battery's have a finite life-span, it is a matter of *when* they fail, not if.

Deviace certainly is not waterproof because it has active cooling and holes for cooling. Today more and more phones have non removable batteries, so it doesn't seems like big problem.



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Random_Matt said:
Does it matter? I'm out on a daily basis and never see people with 3DS's or Vita's, bet they rarely leave the house.

Exactly the problem with Vita and 3DS. 

1. Most are not connected devices, so why take them out on the regular.

2. Thanks to number one, they are regulated to basically dedicated gaming machines.

3. Due to one and two, this is the smallest handheld generation ever, and therefore finding someone with a Vita or 3DS is a 1 in a million chance.

onionberry said:
Mobile hostpot and a battery pack, so easy. I have unlimited data on my phone and I can use the wifi of my apt almost everywhere cause I live in the 21 century :p, so why another bill?

Not everyone is so lucky. Nor do I have the room to carry multiple devices everywhere every day, or the time to be pairing them. As for the battery, it really depends on how unchangable it is. If I can get to it to swap it, then cool, I typically have power around me all the time, but as mentioned below, batteries only last so long.

Pemalite said:
The only reason not to include mobile 4G/3G is to cut costs.

No mobile data, severely underclocked hardware, low 720P screen.

If you can't upgrade the battery, then I would hope the device is water proof.
And if it isn't water proof, then it is a stupid design decision, lithium battery's have a finite life-span, it is a matter of *when* they fail, not if.

So much good stuff here. It is really incredible that they won't offer a wifi one for $299.99 and a 4G one for $399.99. I can live with paying $399.99 for something I will use for a couple hours everyday. But, even at $250 or $300, it is hard to justfiy for something I will only use once in a blue moon. The underclocked hardware and low res screen where also something I could live with for a great mobile device, but now that it appears it will be an at home only device, it fells quite upsetting. 

The battery thing I have to see. If it is soldered into the mother board, then that is just....?



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10/03/2010 

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KBG29 said:
Random_Matt said:
Does it matter? I'm out on a daily basis and never see people with 3DS's or Vita's, bet they rarely leave the house.

Exactly the problem with Vita and 3DS. 

1. Most are not connected devices, so why take them out on the regular.

2. Thanks to number one, they are regulated to basically dedicated gaming machines.

3. Due to one and two, this is the smallest handheld generation ever, and therefore finding someone with a Vita or 3DS is a 1 in a million chance.

onionberry said:
Mobile hostpot and a battery pack, so easy. I have unlimited data on my phone and I can use the wifi of my apt almost everywhere cause I live in the 21 century :p, so why another bill?

Not everyone is so lucky. Nor do I have the room to carry multiple devices everywhere every day, or the time to be pairing them. As for the battery, it really depends on how unchangable it is. If I can get to it to swap it, then cool, I typically have power around me all the time, but as mentioned below, batteries only last so long.

Pemalite said:
The only reason not to include mobile 4G/3G is to cut costs.

No mobile data, severely underclocked hardware, low 720P screen.

If you can't upgrade the battery, then I would hope the device is water proof.
And if it isn't water proof, then it is a stupid design decision, lithium battery's have a finite life-span, it is a matter of *when* they fail, not if.

So much good stuff here. It is really incredible that they won't offer a wifi one for $299.99 and a 4G one for $399.99. I can live with paying $399.99 for something I will use for a couple hours everyday. But, even at $250 or $300, it is hard to justfiy for something I will only use once in a blue moon. The underclocked hardware and low res screen where also something I could live with for a great mobile device, but now that it appears it will be an at home only device, it fells quite upsetting. 

The battery thing I have to see. If it is soldered into the mother board, then that is just....?

Well I'm guessing that if people have the money to pay another data bill just for a  handheld console, they have the money to pay a mobile hostpot or unlimited data. And you can use those options for more devices, not just for the switch. Time to pair the device? You have time to play outside but you don't have 30 seconds to pair the switch to an external online connection?

 

Mobile hostpost, wifi carriers and free wifi everywhere... yeah I don't see the need of a more expensive device AND another data bill just for the switch when the internet is so accessible these days. 



I feel like this is something only you care about



Love when people make themselves look deeply disappointed about the lack of something nobody was expecting anyways.



The thought that people really want a 3/4/5g model and are actually willing to pay for it is disturbing. Where the hell were you when my precious Vita was failing? Just hook it up to your phone via wireless hotspot and move along. And don't act like you cannot do it... because if you could pay for this feature, you can do it with your phone.

Truth is, this feature is not necessary and will have very little measure on the success of Switch. I guess a few people will be upset because Switch will not offer every feature known to man ever (I was very mad it would not mow my lawn... shit, I have a huge yard) but I doubt those people matter.



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