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Lefil said:
Mr Puggsly said:

He said a wall is going up just yesterday.

If a wall/fence doesn't happen, I imagine it would be from those who oppose it somehow getting in the way.

How will you make Mexico pay for the wall?

Put a massive tax on tacos.

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But seriously, you see that massive national debt? Just add to it. Or tax Mexico, I dunno. They can figure it out.



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fatslob-:O said:
Lefil said:

How will you make Mexico pay for the wall?

Threatening to overturn NAFTA would be one since Mexico is the biggest beneficiary of it ... 

Democrats are not for the working class anymore and the rust belt shows this with the disaffected white working class ... 

It's why Sanders is right that that the Democratic Party is an absolute embarassment for not appealing to the common man ... 

Mexicans in general wouldn’t bat an eye if threatened with the cancellation of NAFTA, and will definitely not send a single peso for a wall. Stupid Americans like to go on and on about how terrible Democrats are, but they can't say what the Republican party has really done for them. History has proven that economies do better under Democratic presidents than Republican, but stupid Americans just can't accept this fact. While I don’t believe the Democrats can solve all problems, I do believe they are on the right and decent side of history on most issues. Today’s GOP are a disaster and embarrassment to the world. They are always wrong, don’t believe in science, data, evidence, reality and they routinely ignore history. 



Lefil said:
fatslob-:O said:

Threatening to overturn NAFTA would be one since Mexico is the biggest beneficiary of it ... 

Democrats are not for the working class anymore and the rust belt shows this with the disaffected white working class ... 

It's why Sanders is right that that the Democratic Party is an absolute embarassment for not appealing to the common man ... 

Stupid Americans like to go on and on about how terrible Democrats are, but they can't say what the Republican party has really done for them. History has proven that economies do better under Democratic presidents than Republican, but stupid Americans just can't accept this fact. While I don’t believe the Democrats can solve all problems, I do believe they are on the right and decent side of history on most issues. Today’s GOP are a disaster and embarrassment to the world. They are always wrong, don’t believe in science, data, evidence, reality and they routinely ignore history. 

The dems of today aren't the dems of the Bill Clinton years. Hopefully this loss to Trump will make them reconsider where they've gone off the rails and lost touch.

Remember, if Trump has a bad four years they can gain back some ground.

I actually felt bad for Bill when he was standing next to Hillary making a concession speech. The party has been hijacked by socialist losers.



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bunchanumbers said:
Ronster316 said:
If jobs are created/saved, USA's debt reduced, ISIS smashed and the wall is built, most trump fans will be happy.

Anything on top of that is a bonus

He already said he isn't doing the wall, he said that the national debt will increase and ISIS was already on the ropes.

He's not doing the wall? news to me....... still very much said it was going up last night during his final thankyou rally.

ISIS will PAY....... thats for sure.

Regarding the national debt........ we will just have to wait and see.

Merry christmas.



Mr Puggsly said:
Lefil said:

Stupid Americans like to go on and on about how terrible Democrats are, but they can't say what the Republican party has really done for them. History has proven that economies do better under Democratic presidents than Republican, but stupid Americans just can't accept this fact. While I don’t believe the Democrats can solve all problems, I do believe they are on the right and decent side of history on most issues. Today’s GOP are a disaster and embarrassment to the world. They are always wrong, don’t believe in science, data, evidence, reality and they routinely ignore history. 

The dems of today aren't the dems of the Bill Clinton years. Hopefully this loss to Trump will make them reconsider where they've gone off the rails and lost touch.

Remember, if Trump has a bad four years they can gain back some ground.

I actually felt bad for Bill when he was standing next to Hillary making a concession speech. The party has been hijacked by socialist losers.

You still can't answer my question. What the hell have Republicans really done? 



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A politician who lies to get elected? Oh my god! What's next, countries that go to war to stimulate the economy or get their hands on oil and build military installations in and around areas where would like more control and influence?



snyps said:
TaMpAbLaCk said:

LMAO This is glorious! These moron poor white redecks that voted against their own interest (as they do not make 250k+ & the poor/middle class will pay for the tax cut for the rich) are getting a big ole FU to their faces by Trump! hahahaha  Anyone with a brain knew he was saying whatever made the crowds cheer to get elected, but never was gonna follow through with any of it! He could carealess about the poor! Also love how Trump gave Washington D.C. back to the people & drained that swamp! Whoops he is installing more lobbist, Billionaire Wall Street bankers, Oil Executives tight with Putin etc. His cabinet has more Billionaire elitist class than any in history! hahahahaha They let a reality star internet troll Yankee Billionaire that made his money off the backs of the less fortunate & stiffing small business by filing for bankruptcy 7x & not paying taxes lmao Idiots! The best part is he lost HUUUUUUGE by 3 Million votes 20x more than Gore beat Bush by & yet he acts like he won this massive victory. Well when he screws the nation, he cannot point any fingers as he has a Repo House & Senate. Get ya popcorn ready! This is gonna be fun to watch! In the OP's video the morons in the crowd were like what?!.. the claps stopped & they were like damn he played us.

If you think the other Presidents of this last century intended in keeping their lofty campain promises then... here's some niquil.. we all make mistakes.

What is it with you and niquil? Seriously. Look at your posts. You seem to be obsessed with it. Maybe you should take your own advice and have some yourself?



Lefil said:
Mr Puggsly said:

The dems of today aren't the dems of the Bill Clinton years. Hopefully this loss to Trump will make them reconsider where they've gone off the rails and lost touch.

Remember, if Trump has a bad four years they can gain back some ground.

I actually felt bad for Bill when he was standing next to Hillary making a concession speech. The party has been hijacked by socialist losers.

You still can't answer my question. What the hell have Republicans really done? 

The war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, The Great Recession, Reaganomics, Operation Desert Storm, Operation Somali Freedom, and freed the slaves. One of these things are not like the other I guess.



Mummelmann said:
A politician who lies to get elected? Oh my god! What's next, countries that go to war to stimulate the economy or get their hands on oil and build military installations in and around areas where would like more control and influence?

Oh come on. You're better than this. You know damn well that there's a massive difference between making promises you don't keep and lying through your teeth.



naruball said:
Mummelmann said:
A politician who lies to get elected? Oh my god! What's next, countries that go to war to stimulate the economy or get their hands on oil and build military installations in and around areas where would like more control and influence?

Oh come on. You're better than this. You know damn well that there's a massive difference between making promises you don't keep and lying through your teeth.

Well, is there such a huge difference? It it better to lie and then not come clean? The vast majority of campaign promises are lofty and unlikely to come true, and those who make them know this full well. Trust me, I'm no Trump fan, far from it, but at least he admits to speaking BS, this is part of the reason why he won at all.

I dislike politicians in general, it seems like regardless of party and affiliation, corruption and egocentrical thinking becomes the norm. Like in Norway recently, they had a vote on whether or not to double the severance pay for politicians who have served in office, from one year to two years, average severance pay being in the order of about 100-120.000$, the Social Democrats, Left, Progress Party (populist right) and Christian Peoples Party voted for, almost all of them, that's a really widespread agreement on unjust and unfair terms for the most overappreciated profession in the world, most of these folks have never held a real job in their lives.

It's the same in Sweden, the right pretends that it's simply a question of future economical concern and the well being of their fellow citizens when they opposed almost any immigration, and the left preaches anti-hatred, anti-violence and tolerance and then turn out to be both violent, intolerant and hateful.

In short; politicians are assholes, Trump is also an asshole but at least he's open about it, which makes him easier to oppose and disect... I guess that's my point. Or something.