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Dr.Vita on 09 December 2016

Sony never got cocky with their 4 home consoles why should it happen with the PS5? (I wouldn't call the early PS3 days cocky because PS3 was very modern at the time with Blu-Ray so the $600 price tag was worth it).




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Gourmet on 09 December 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Gourmet said:

They already have.

Dropping handhelds was absolutely bonkers. They're giving up Japan to Nintendo completely, even PS4 there will sink because home consoles are just secondary there and the Switch dock is enough to cover the whole home market.

And Japan (market + japanese games) was the biggest edge of PlayStation against Xbox. If Nintendo does not screw up, Sony will probably end up in third next gen, and Pro might lose to Scorpio.

That is just overreaction. If the Switch takes the place of the 3DS. The 3DS market will purchase it on Japan, but the PS4/5 will still have the same market to sell.

The home+mobile thing if just something to make Nintendo get support. The 3 party support, if the Switch has it, is what will sell the console.

It will take the place of the 3DS AND Vita. How many japanese PS4 games do not get Vita ports? Very few. And why would they port Switch games to PS4 if Switch can play just the same on a TV? None of those Vita+PS4 games push the PS4 hardware at all.

Unless the Switch fails and the Vita+PS4 games become PS4 only, Switch is bound to take the PS4 marketshare.



SWORDF1SH on 09 December 2016
Dr.Vita said:
Sony never got cocky with their 4 home consoles why should it happen with the PS5? (I wouldn't call the early PS3 days cocky because PS3 was very modern at the time with Blu-Ray so the $600 price tag was worth it).

It might of been worth it but expecting gamers to buy it at that price was cocky. They then spent most of the generation chopping and changing the console and ultimately cost Kutaragi his job. 

The PS3 survived on brand strength which took a knock during the 7th gen. Sony didn't make the same mistake again with the PS4 and Pro.



Swordmasterman on 09 December 2016
Gourmet said:
Swordmasterman said:

That is just overreaction. If the Switch takes the place of the 3DS. The 3DS market will purchase it on Japan, but the PS4/5 will still have the same market to sell.

The home+mobile thing if just something to make Nintendo get support. The 3 party support, if the Switch has it, is what will sell the console.

It will take the place of the 3DS AND Vita. How many japanese PS4 games do not get Vita ports? Very few. And why would they port Switch games to PS4 if Switch can play just the same on a TV? None of those Vita+PS4 games push the PS4 hardware at all.

Unless the Switch fails and the Vita+PS4 games become PS4 only, Switch is bound to take the PS4 marketshare.

Because the PS4 is much more popular worldwide and will still be a successful console despite that inflation of Handheld and Homeconsole that Nintendo will make.



Gourmet on 09 December 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Gourmet said:

It will take the place of the 3DS AND Vita. How many japanese PS4 games do not get Vita ports? Very few. And why would they port Switch games to PS4 if Switch can play just the same on a TV? None of those Vita+PS4 games push the PS4 hardware at all.

Unless the Switch fails and the Vita+PS4 games become PS4 only, Switch is bound to take the PS4 marketshare.

Because the PS4 is much more popular worldwide and will still be a successful console despite that inflation of Handheld and Homeconsole that Nintendo will make.

Just like the Vita?

I'm talking about games that sell more on Vita or close to it.



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sub-zero-TM on 09 December 2016

Haha let's hope not and that they learned not to make that mistake ever again.



Swordmasterman on 09 December 2016
Gourmet said:
Swordmasterman said:

Because the PS4 is much more popular worldwide and will still be a successful console despite that inflation of Handheld and Homeconsole that Nintendo will make.

Just like the Vita?

I'm talking about games that sell more on Vita or close to it.

There isn't such a thing even in Japan. Its probably cheaper to produce games for the Vita, and the Vita  is another market for that games.



invetedlotus123 on 09 December 2016

I hope they do. PS4 is BORING. PS3 was such a monster for it`s day that the CELL CPU is more powerfull than the PS4 CPU. Sure, the whole system is far more powerful than PS3, but this show how low-tie Ps4 hardware was when it launched, PS4 Pro should have been PS4 launch specs, at minimum.

Sure, the games are there and arriving more by the day, but PS3 was breathtaking and a piece of technological vanguard and vision, so was PS2, Ps4 is "oh, I need to get that to play new releases".



Kerotan on 09 December 2016

Nah Microsoft are close enough to them and still aggressive enough to keep them on their toes. They'll build the ps5 like they did the ps4 and they'll make it completely backwards compatible with the ps4.



Rob5VGC on 09 December 2016

Nope. The game changing damage the PS3 did is still in Sony's heart. They would be wise not to let it happen again.