Well Sanders is horrible so I hope he and anyone like him do not run. I will never vote for a socialist thank you.
Well Sanders is horrible so I hope he and anyone like him do not run. I will never vote for a socialist thank you.
| fleischr said: 53 percent of white women voted for Trump. And the question is... how the hell did that happen? Without a doubt, women knew of Trump's sexist and misogynistic tendencies, but why wasn't that a deal breaker? The truth is, it would have been had Democrats not pandered to women on that fact. The left has got so caught up with character assassination that people are just fed up with it. You've cried wolf on racism, sexism, homophobia, etc so much that people don't care to listen to you - especially when you do very little on substantive details of what your policies really stand for. The Clinton campaign tried to win by focusing exclusively on Trumps negatives. People just don't tolerate that behavior anymore. There's more to it than showing the bad in the other side, you have to make a compelling, specific case on why your policies are best for people independent of whether your rival is a sinner or a saint. |
And to add onto the "Trump is a racist" allegations, he did better than Mitt Romney with the black, Hispanic, and Asian vote both percentage-wise and in raw numbers. Romney was considered to be a "moderate" Republican candidate whereas Trump is more brash. However, those brash statements didn't stop him from doing a better job with the minority vote.
| Shiken said: Well Sanders is horrible so I hope he and anyone like him do not run. I will never vote for a socialist thank you. |
Sanders isn't a socialist lol.

They just need to focus more on White voters who are uneducated and educated. Also they have to keep their demographic base since this election Trump was able to get more Hispanic, African America, and Asians votes the recent Republicans. Democrats also need a fresh new candidate with some good political history and no baggage.
Teeqoz said:
Sanders isn't a socialist lol. |
"When I ran for the Senate the first time, I ran against the wealthiest guy in the state of Vermont. He spent a lot on advertising — very ugly stuff. He kept attacking me as a liberal. He didn’t use the word ‘socialist’ at all, because everybody in the state knows that I am that."
jason1637 said:
"When I ran for the Senate the first time, I ran against the wealthiest guy in the state of Vermont. He spent a lot on advertising — very ugly stuff. He kept attacking me as a liberal. He didn’t use the word ‘socialist’ at all, because everybody in the state knows that I am that." |
He can call himself what he want, but the policies he suggested when he ran in the primary weren't socialist so it doesn't really matter what he claims to be. If Bernie Sanders is a socialist, then Norway is a communistic country. And Norway is not a communistic country.
EDIT: But if you by socialist mean that he wants to impose certain regulations on business, you know, like pretty much every politician in the world except for anarcho-capitalists/other types of anarchists, then yes, Bernie Sanders is a socialist, along with all the other politicians sitting in the US Senate and in the Congress including Donald Trump.
EDIT #2: As to why I believe Bernie chose to call himself "socialist", it's simply because that was a name he was going to be branded with which could easily have been used against him during his entire political carreer, and thus the best move for him was to embrace it and refer to himself as it. That way, any political opponents trying to attack him by calling him a socialist would have a lot less effect because he already did so himself. Or maybe he's trying to redefine socialism into a new concept, separate from the classic marxist view of it. In fact exactly that is suggested in the article you linked me, and it also says:
"These policies include "strong labor rights, progressive taxation, a robust array of public goods like child care, health care, and higher education," all advocated by Sanders, said Schwartz. With these positions, Sanders is technically a social democrat — he isn’t calling for a red revolution, just "a way of making capitalism humane," according to Peter Dreier, a leftist political theorist at Occidental College. So he’s not really a socialist, at least by the strict definition of the word."
If you actually read through the entire article you linked (and you should), you'll find a very good explanation as to why Bernie Sanders isn't a socialist (unless you choose to redefine the word, but then you have to drop all the other connotations you have with the original meaning of "socialist" as well).

It depends how a Trump presidency goes on whether they win in 4 years. But one thing is certain, the gap between what is considered "left" and "right" in America is going to widen. The center-left and center-right in America is dead.
Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).