Just like how it was easy for Clinton it wipe the floor with him, Oh right don't wanna mention that humiliation ...  

It takes 60 senators to prevent a filibuster, not a bill ...

Democratic senators can try as hard as they want to obstruct but it'll be political suicide for them to keep doing it once the 2018 senate relection comes around ...

Yes, lest vote for change no longer: let´s keep the Don in power =)

Do you want to know why people voted for Trump? Because of the kind of replies we have in this thread. People think that those who voted for Trump are uneducated, stupid, racist, misogynist, sexist and pretty much every name in the book. They spend their time calling Trump voters names, putting them down, and shaming them. These people consider themselves intelligent and above Trump voters. Their only reply ever is to shut those people up, to silence them out of fear of being proven wrong. They do not tolerate any dissenting voice and are quick to insult. People like this are the problem, along with the "elite" who believe themselves to be the only ones who possess the truth and spend their time giving people lessons and feeling superior to others.

The reasons people voted Trump are because all the other politiciens in this campaign were part of this elite. No one else wanted to hear their problems. No one else wanted to fight political correctness, social justice, the propaganda from feminism (like the myth of the wage gap) or from groups like Black Lives Matter. This elite would have white people feel ashamed of themselves for their "privilige" (e.g. just the fact they are white). They would have men give everything to women and put women on pedestals because women are "oppressed" by the "patriarchy".

No, I would say that those voting Trump are not the uneducated ones. The uneducated ones are the ones that blindly follow political correctness, that blindly accept opinions as fact ("The minorities are oppressed!", "Blacks are victim of police brutality!", "The patriachy is keeping women down!") without ever doing any research to determine the validity of these arguments, or to listen to the opposing view point. The uneducated ones, the ones without manners or open-mindedness, are the ones who spend their time insulting those who dare challenge them.

Trump won because people finally had the courage to stand up against all of that, because people finally educated themselves and saw the danger of staying on the current path. Trump won because people had enough of being silenced and shamed. Trump won because people finally dared challenge the totalitarian view point of the elite.

For that, I applaud them.

We haven't seen any reply like that in this thread tho. 

Don't tell people how to vote. Obama care is a disaster, jobs are leaving the country left and right(96,000,000 out of work), and nobody wants open borders or a war with Russia. Anyone paying attention to the real issues could see Trump was going to win. All Hillary ran on was "I'm a woman and celebs like me".

Except "better" is a subjective term. To use it objectively is to push your views on others. That in combination with the thought of "it's bad to vote for change unless I vote for change" makes your argument a big mess of double standards.

So you think that "literally any change is good change, and the more the better" is a reasonable position to take? 

Well the those educated liberals had the last two elections and it was leading us into a path of socialism. Obamacare in a nutshell was wealth redistribution. A lazy unemployed person capble of working shouldn't get better health care than a working person strugging to pay bills. That's a broken system.

In my opinion, people voted for Trump hoping he would take us in a different direction versus more Obama. The new direction republicans take us may not work, but neither was Obama's direction in his 8 years.

Change is fine. In fact it's necessary. It's unlikely that Trump will be able to do very much, because the status quo political/economic elites buy power by the metric ton in DC. K Street is about to send more legions in than ever before to ensure that as we speak.

Clinton lost because people are really tired of the same old crap from the establishment, and because the DNC was almost laughably tilting things in her favor in the idiotic primary system. Sanders was getting a LOT of cross-party support, not necessarily because his policies were identical to what people were used to, but because he spoke directly to the nation on the issues of entrenched corruption, income inequality, lack of economic mobility, and the loss of quality jobs in the nation. The big-corporate job export system replaces careers with service industry jobs on the mean.

In the same way, another Bush or generic GOP candidate would have been very vulnerable as well. People are tired of the same crap happening regardless of which dickhead they elect. It's why the Bush and Obama years look so eerily similar : all bought and paid for by the same interests.

Talking heads like to define things oddly, but take the ACA : it was drafted with immense industry support, and it amounts to a massive payoff / fascist corporate handjob at the expense of the US citizenry. You *MUST* buy this corporate product under penalty of law. That's not what Obama was elected to do, if anything that sounds like a Neocon's wet dream : guaranteed profits for the selected corporate sponsors that pay them bags of money through PACs and SuperPACs. All the mainstream Democrat and Republican candidates may as well wear jackets with the various emblems that buy their policy decisions : Goldman Sachs, GE, Walmart, Merck, etc. They sure as shit don't give a wet dookie about any non-donor outside of creating useful idiots.

Clinton lost because she was a terrible candidate and people are finally getting tired of this garbage. Trump won despite being a terrible candidate because he was not identified as an obvious extension of the status quo.

And as for people arguing about 'popular vote'. You cannot make that determination after the fact. Here is why :

When people know their vote doesn't matter, they are massively less inclined to bother with voting. If you want to vote D in Texas, you are wasting your time, so a massive % of people in Texas might have increased the votes for Hillary. At the same time, voters for the obvious winning party in that state are also inclined to stay home, because they feel secure in their choice winning without any real threat. So you have a bunch of groups that stay home for various reasons.

If the EC was removed ahead of time, and the election happened again, you would get a tremendous increase in turnout with much more at stake. Probably at least a 50% increase in turnout. So who knows, with those rules in place and known, maybe HC would have won, maybe she would have lost even worse.

Hopefully we can do better in 2020. I sort of doubt it though. In the meantime I at least hope some positives come from the Trump era, just as I hoped for positives from the previous years under various jackasses of all stripes.

And for the LOVE OF GOD : be nice to each other unless someone is a dick to you first. At that point, either have a real argument or agree to disagree and move on. I've not seen such overreaction and poor class in some time, both from sore losers and sore winners. Grow up (obviously I'm not speaking to most of you here, but you know who I am talking about, it's freaking everywhere right now on social media).