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Ka-pi96 said:
KiigelHeart said:

If you pre-order digital you can download it days, sometimes even weeks before release and play it 00.01 on release day. I've done this with Fifa17, QB and Gears4 already and it's so convenient.

Playing it the day before release > playing it 00:01 on release though

That would be nice, I did not know you can do that :P I remember Destiny was sold couple of days earlier at retail but you couldn't play it until official release. Anyway, here you are lucky to get a physical disc at release day if you pre-order.

xl-klaudkil said:
Lets see how awesome digital copies of games are on your console in 20 years :).

Didn't a study suggest 30% of console software is digital, that's still too small for a digital only era.
 

Yeah ask me in 20 years if I care about a game I bought 20 years ago :D I still have many original Xbox games I bought over 10 years ago and they're not exactly awesome on my current console either.

And no, it's not time for a digital only era yet obviously but we're getting there step by step.



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I suppose A Thieves End being the last uncharted game and Gears being just another Gears also added to the sales.

However, compared to when Gears launched and now, the amount of great mp experiences has greatly increased. Even Cod is struggling to keep its userbase and I'm not sure how Gears, Cod and Halo will be able to hold on. I suppose Halo just needs 343 to create a better campaign.



if someone told me that the new gears would outsell the new uncharted I would have laughed at him really hard.



KiigelHeart said:
DonFerrari said:

Because I can snuff from over a dozen km distance when people intend to use "over 50% digital sales" (without any data to back it up) to say the game didn't really sold only that.

This is a thread comparing UC to GoW, so when addressing that GoW sales are smaller because of digital sales is basically putting that only one of the two were impacted by it.

Well it didn't really sell only that, digital sales are more significant now than they were before :) Obviously it goes for both Sony and MS games. No-one said that only one of the two were impacted by it, or even suggested something like that. GoW4 I'm sure is more affected by digital sales than GoW3 though, especially with its digital pricing and early access. It still sold much less than GoW3 which is disappointing, but it's another studio making the game now and I'm hopeful they can make the franchise bigger again.

Well, so you lost so many discussions about SW sales this gen, because all the time there are suggestions to try and justify that MS games sell much more than Sony on digital (to justify very different total sales).



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Uncharted 4 has a shot at reaching 10 million sales. Uncharted 4 has maintained the quality of the Uncharted series.
PS4 near unlimited consumer demand is propelling its sales new heights.

Not that far you! It's great but it's nothing new... 

DonFerrari said:
OnyxPhoenix said:

there's no discussion, Uncharted 4 beat Halo 5, Gears 4 is small game now, i suggest comparing Gears 4 with Ratchet & Clank or somehting like that

Uhnnnn it seems interesting comparing UC to RC... But the idea here were to compare the second position exclusive of Sony versus MS. Have MS exclusives dropped so much bellow Sony this gen?

DialgaMarine said:
Did Uncharted 1 really sell only 30K units in it's first week? That's not a typo? Talk about some serious legs. I guess it being the first game to feature a platinum trophy after the famous PS3 FW update 2.40, it's not too surprising.

Not a typo on my part, copied from the database. The game is fantastic, but the moment of PS3 at that time and being a new IP and no marketing could justify it.

AsGryffynn said:

This either highlights how most people are moving to downloads and digital media seems to be ousting boxed crap. TBH it's sort of encouraged since it takes an eternity to run X even with a copy and day one prices are the same most of the time. The whole preload thing also entails you are able to download it while you sleep and play it in the morning, whereas doing this with copies seems difficult... 

In other words, convenience. 

So you really think that digital sales only affected Gears and Halo but for some reason Sony customer don't buy digital so any enhancement of the numbers shall only be done to MS games?

Well, given my experience with online Sony media has been "catastrophic" and that you're limited to one hard drive within your machine (and I must comment it fills bloody fast) and how their discs install faster, I think yes. 

Well, not horribly so, but I think more MS fans are buying digital. Sony fans still stick to disc because it still works better for them but on our side we've always had a bit of an attachment to online media (remember, we had online before anyone else save PC gamers). Add to this the fact that a lot of Xbox territory sort of promotes this (because a lot of that territory has expensive physical games and they're cheaper online) and yes, it makes sense we have a higher digital attachment than PS4 players do. Proof? I no longer buy physical. That and I know at least six other real life owners who don't. In between this and the preload incentives I am thinking more often than not we're buying digital... 

Ka-pi96 said:
AsGryffynn said:

This either highlights how most people are moving to downloads and digital media seems to be ousting boxed crap. TBH it's sort of encouraged since it takes an eternity to run X even with a copy and day one prices are the same most of the time. The whole preload thing also entails you are able to download it while you sleep and play it in the morning, whereas doing this with copies seems difficult... 

In other words, convenience. 

@1 Try living in the UK for awhile

@2 Digital copies don`t break street date, physical can. Plus if you preorder from the right places you can be 90% sure that you`ll be getting the game early. They have to ship out early to ensure day 1 delivery but some shops do it early enough that you should get it the game at least 1 day early (I even got Halo MCC 4 days early) and I`d much rather receive and be playing a game a whole day early than have to wait until a download finishes to be able to play

1. Don't complain of your bloody internet, it's really fast! 

2. Not everyone has connections or a lot of buying savvyness. In fact, the vast majority of people have to wait until after release to buy it. Then there's the whole "Play Anywhere" thing that renders this pointless... 

And what's with UK Internet? I've been there! 



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kuaga said:
Why forgot all People that VGChartz use Retail Sales only?

In 2006 or 2012 Retailsales where Bigger than Downloads...Retail Sales decreased in the last 3/4 Years...by 50/60 percent?!

And why do u Compare a FSK18+ Game with a FSK16 Game?!?
Why not with Halo 5? ;)

Halo 5 Sales even better if u Compare the Userbase from Xone vs PS4

45 Mio. Vs 25 Mio.


(sry for my bad english^^)

Lmao so now we take into account the userbase to assess the success of a game? Oh man..

And that digital bullshit has to stop, it accounts for max 30% of the sales, and even then...



Having played them both im not surprised, Gears 4 is not very good while Uncharted 4 is excellent. This is exactly the outcome we want the better game selling better, now hopefully the collision can take Gears away from be a painfully mediocre corridor shooter to something special



Congrats Uncharted. From ( not really ) humble beginnings, you rose through the ranks over the last 9 years to become the premier AAA exclusive. YOU DID IT!



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

This thread is an insult to U4, next time use knack, it's enough to beat all MS games in quality and sales



Raitoningu said:
This thread is an insult to U4, next time use knack, it's enough to beat all MS games in quality and sales

Christ, I hope this is your last post on this site.

Wow.... 

OT: Uncharted passed Gears in sales a long time ago...



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