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naruball said:
tak13 said:

Apparently, It's a doom article for  Nintendo as hardware maker,  (  which by the way releases a new hardware in just five months ) .

  It's not a doom article only when you think  that If Nintendo has ever be forced to go third party, unlike sega they can do it succesfully because of all that huge franchises and won't die completely as some people irrationally implying.

Although, there is mobile gaming too, movies, themed parks e.t.c...

Releasing games on mobile hasn't prevented Ninty from releasing games on their handheld. Making games for other platforms and thus increasing their sales doesn't mean they are forced to do so due to failure. It could simply be to raise brand awareness, to make new generations fall in love with old Ninty ips.

But, yes, I agree with what you said.

Such a long story. I have exhausted that topic in other threads.

Anyway, Nintendo didn't and won't release core games on mobile! As for the other platforms, if you referring to ps4/xb1, then Nintendo selling its own hardware would be suprefluous, people would choose the best hardware... You feel that those who  are  purchasing Nintendo home consoles for the exclusives, would still do it if these games were  also on PS4/XB1? Probably, many wii u owners, own an xb1 or PS4 too.

Therefore, why releasing Mario kart 8 on PS4/XB1, when you cannot be sure that it will sell as much as it should, in order to match the money it made for Ninty by being on its own hardware? It's somewhat risky.

In addition MK8 on the low selling wii u  has sold more than many first party xbox/ps exclusives! For example, all the uncharted games on ps3, and halo 5 on xbox one! By the way the writer overestimates xbox one... 

Do you mean to release non core games on PS4/XB1? If so, better that on pc which is for home consoles, what mobile phones are for handheld consoles!

 

 

If you mean Nintendo going fully third party, that should be the last resort, ergo when they wouldn't be able to make money on hardware anymore! Switch must have to be sold on profit from the beginning, unlike wii u which was being sold at a loss for two and a  half years,  that was its real problem not the commercial flop ( that tablet controller...) , no other Nintendo  console had made a loss before. 

Nintendo has stated that they want to get back to their normal yearly profitabiiity, that is 100$ billion yen or 950m dollars! They were acheiving that on GC/GBA era, which combined sold 103m, they will end with 85-90m sold this gen ( it could be quite more if they hadn't killed the wii u so early ) .

Switch has to have a good third party support like gc that can have a relative success, fifa selling 2m on it for instance! Third party software may move consoles but it's also important because your take some money from what the developer earns from it.

Wiiu has sold almost 100m software, with the overwhelming majority being first party. Hence, a 30m selling profitable switch with 230m software  sales ( 150m from first party and 80m from third party ), would be better than Nintendo selling 500m  on multiplatform.

 

However, as I aforesaid they are diversifying, they will have new sources of money apart from main buisness! We agree that this is great!

 

P.s I don't think that those who bought a 3ds because of pokemon go are from the new generation, more like people who have played Ninty games in the past but had left Nintendo/skipped Nintendo this gen, your opinion on that?



This type of deal I could see happening. Not "really" third party but something that works well for both sides. For example:

Microsoft gets:

- 2 or 3 Nintendo IP per year of Nintendo's choice. 1/3 can be a port of an older game.
- Switch can inteface with XBox and play XBox games around the house portably. 
- Ability to make a Nintendo-themed XBox hardware bundle/branding, specifically for Japanese market.
- Some Nintendo Virtual Console games ... again of Nintendo's choosing.

Nintendo gets:

- 100% of profit from their XBox games (no licensing fee charges)
- Halo Switch, Banjo-Kazooie Switch, Killer Instinct Switch, Gears of War Switch, etc.
- Minecraft x Nintendo cross over game and Minecraft Amiibo (shared profit)
- Free marketing from Microsoft
- Big, fat money hat every year from Microsoft
- Potential to have control over XBox brand if MS wants to move out of game business.

Win-win deal for both sides.



maxleresistant said:

I kind of don't care  about people saying Nintendo should go third party.


But I'm mature enough to know that it doesn't matter if Nintendo still makes hardware or not. Console wars are for kids, if tomorrow Halo is on PS4, meh, don't give a shit...

If Uncharted is on Xbox One, don't care either, Mario on PC? Why not? It's their business decision, I just care about playing games.

 

Although the article itself is baseless.



tak13 said:

P.s I don't think that those who bought a 3ds because of pokemon go are from the new generation, more like people who have played Ninty games in the past but had left Nintendo/skipped Nintendo this gen, your opinion on that?

I don't have an opinion on that, because I simply don't know. I read somewhere (don't remember where) that the number of young people buying 3ds' and pokemon games increased after pokemon go. But I still don't know percentages, so who knows.



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Lucas-Rio said:
I don't think playstation fans and xbox fans would buy a Zelda game.

It would probably sell 1 millions but not more. Not worth the try.

But uummm it wouldn't be playstation fans it would be nintendo fans. Do you think if nintendo went third party 60 million odd nintendo fans just would stop playing games 😅😅😅😅😅





Swordmasterman said:
maxleresistant said:

I kind of don't care  about people saying Nintendo should go third party.


But I'm mature enough to know that it doesn't matter if Nintendo still makes hardware or not. Console wars are for kids, if tomorrow Halo is on PS4, meh, don't give a shit...

If Uncharted is on Xbox One, don't care either, Mario on PC? Why not? It's their business decision, I just care about playing games.

We need competition, Nintendo can't go Third Party.

The real competition is against the mobile market. Nintendo is already a third party publisher for mobile devices.

People are too hung up on the hardware, and not enough on the software.

 

Imagine if Samsung/sony and LG were the only 3 manufacturing movie players (blu ray DVDs etc), and that they'll compete against each others and get movie companies to make their movies exclusive, or multiplatforms.

This is basically the system we have with video games. The only loser here is the customer. If tomorrow there was one console that played all the video games of the 3 consoles, I would be happy to buy it.

What we have is not competition, it's a useless, dated system where the consumer has to by more products.



teigaga said:
maxleresistant said:

I kind of don't care  about people saying Nintendo should go third party.


But I'm mature enough to know that it doesn't matter if Nintendo still makes hardware or not. Console wars are for kids, if tomorrow Halo is on PS4, meh, don't give a shit...

If Uncharted is on Xbox One, don't care either, Mario on PC? Why not? It's their business decision, I just care about playing games.

 

Although the article itself is baseless.

didn't read the article, like I said I don't care about people saying Nintendo should go third party, I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm saying whatever. I'll follow where Zelda is.



Soundwave said:

This type of deal I could see happening. Not "really" third party but something that works well for both sides. For example:

Microsoft gets:

- 2 or 3 Nintendo IP per year of Nintendo's choice. 1/3 can be a port of an older game.
- Switch can inteface with XBox and play XBox games around the house portably. 
- Ability to make a Nintendo-themed XBox hardware bundle/branding, specifically for Japanese market.
- Some Nintendo Virtual Console games ... again of Nintendo's choosing.

Nintendo gets:

- 100% of profit from their XBox games (no licensing fee charges)
- Halo Switch, Banjo-Kazooie Switch, Killer Instinct Switch, Gears of War Switch, etc.
- Minecraft x Nintendo cross over game and Minecraft Amiibo (shared profit)
- Free marketing from Microsoft
- Big, fat money hat every year from Microsoft
- Potential to have control over XBox brand if MS wants to move out of game business.

Win-win deal for both sides.

A deal with Microsoft would be so interesting for Nintendo, given how popular a machine like the switch is in Japan it could finally help ms get their foot in the door there after two decades of trying. 

 

I always look back at Mario and sonic games side by side on the gamecube and say "never say never " when it comes to what might happen down the road. 



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Oh naru you lured me and made a wall of text! Actually, I combined my reply to you with my comment about the article!
So, if you don't read it, no problem lol! It might also be incomprehensible in some parts hahah.

One thing that I have to repeat from my extensive comment is that the writer overestimates xbox one...
I mean 10m ZBOTW on it when halo 5 will fall short of than number and the best third party  game, will barely surpass that? Hello, we're not on the irregularly vast 7TH gen.