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Hillary Clinton won. How much time till Nuclear War?

There will be no nuclear ... 168 47.19%
 
Nuclear World war in 2017... 64 17.98%
 
Nuclear Armaggedom in 2018. 15 4.21%
 
We will be living like Fallout 4 in 2019. 55 15.45%
 
Nuclear war before her term ends. 54 15.17%
 
Total:356

I'll never understand America's obsession with war, death and weapons.



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There is no nuclear war that will result in this. Stop with the extreme hyperbole. Every election we get the same crap, "Candidate A didn't win which means we're DOOOOOOMMMMEEEEDDDD". With the amount of times we'd be in nuclear war if this were hypothetically true, the world would not exist and human life would have been extinct before the 1960's. The political figure you wanted to represent your country didn't win, that is all.



spurgeonryan said:
This is the first time I have ever noticed news media saying a president has won a whole week before it has even happened. Amazing Technology we have these days.

Polls from yesterday, from 270towin:

 

If people vote as the polls show, this is the result.

Depends how accurate the polls are I guess.



lmao... how da hell is Syria important to China again? You people just write whatever your imagination lets you to.



StarOcean said:
There is no nuclear war that will result in this. Stop with the extreme hyperbole. Every election we get the same crap, "Candidate A didn't win which means we're DOOOOOOMMMMEEEEDDDD". With the amount of times we'd be in nuclear war if this were hypothetically true, the world would not exist and human life would have been extinct before the 1960's. The political figure you wanted to represent your country didn't win, that is all.

Yes, but it is not trolling neither flamebait, just opinion. Also, everyone is being nice to each other, so, be cool  ok? No need to ban anyone, specially me.

Please...



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WagnerPaiva said:
CosmicSex said:
Its ridiculous.
You should have seen the dooms day prophecies for Obama.
What is the Satan nuke?

The new model of Russia´s intercontinental nuclear missile. It can leven down a area as big as the state of Texas and it travels at 5000MPH, also, it can reach any spot in the planet with pinpoint accuracy.

I am very sure that America as nukes that are even deadlier than this one by the way. Nuclear War has no winners.

No fucking way. The biggest nuke ever tested, the tsar bomba, couldn't do that. Not even close. Source? Cause I would love to see a how many megatons this thing is purported to have. There is no theoretical limit to how big a single blast could be, but there are logistical problems, as well as a general lack of sanity and reason.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Drakrami said:
lmao... how da hell is Syria important to China again? You people just write whatever your imagination lets you to.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/china-supporting-syrias-regime-what-changed-17738

On August 14, Guan Youfei, a rear admiral in China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy, visited the Syrian capital of Damascus, escorted around the city under heavy guard. Guan’s visit reportedly included meetings with senior military officials and Russian officers, as well as pledges that the Chinese military would provide medical training for Syrian medical staff. The question is why China is increasing this engagement now.

Admiral Guan’s engagement contrasts with previous Chinese behavior during the Syrian crisis. While China has been one of the few powers to maintain an embassy in Damascus throughout the current crisis, Beijing’s engagements have been fairly limited, and mostly focused on attempts from the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs to insert itself into peace negotiations and occasional expressions of concern around individual nationals who appear on the battlefield (either as hostages or fighters). The approach has been driven by a mix of motives, including Beijing’s long-standing principle of “non-interference,” aversion to what China sees as largely Western-led regime change in the guise of humanitarian intervention and a Chinese desire to insulate its growing economic interests in the Middle East from the continuing consequences of the Arab Spring.

That dynamic may now be about to change. China has started to become a participant in the many international discussions around countering terrorism, and ISIS in particular. China has participated in the Global Counterterrorism Forum and hosted sessions about terrorists’ use of the internet, while engaging in discussions at home about contributing more to the fight against ISIS. Last year, a decision was made to alter national legislation to allow Chinese security forces to deploy abroad as part of a counterterrorism effort, and China has sought to establish overseas bases in Djibouti. In neighboring Afghanistan, it has established a new sub-regional alliance between Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan and China to discuss and coordinate the fight against militancy and terrorist groups in the area. All these actions highlight the degree to which China is slowly pushing its security apparatus out into the world in a more aggressive posture than before. Seen within this light, Admiral Guan’s visit to Damascus is another piece in this puzzle, and the most ambitious yet in many ways for a power that has historically preferred to play a more standoffish role in addressing hard military questions.

Looking to the Syrian context in particular, there are two major reasons for China’s apparent decision to begin playing a more forward role in engaging in Syria. One is China’s concern at the numbers and links of Uighur militants from its restive province of Xinjiang participating in the Syrian conflict. The other is its desire for geostrategic stability in the Middle East as it seeks to consummate its “One Belt, One Road” strategy.

Of particular importance on the first count is the presence of the Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP) on the Syrian battlefield. TIP is a successor organization of sorts to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), a group that Beijing has blamed for violence linked to Xinjiang after 9/11. Beijing has claimed that Al Qaeda directly “funded and supported” ETIM, and while the scale of Al Qaeda’s direct support of ETIM has been widely disputed, the relationship between TIP and Al Qaeda has only grown closer since, with TIP garnering more Uighur recruits from 2009 onward and Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri praising Uighur contributions to the global jihad in a recent message.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

WagnerPaiva said:
StarOcean said:
There is no nuclear war that will result in this. Stop with the extreme hyperbole. Every election we get the same crap, "Candidate A didn't win which means we're DOOOOOOMMMMEEEEDDDD". With the amount of times we'd be in nuclear war if this were hypothetically true, the world would not exist and human life would have been extinct before the 1960's. The political figure you wanted to represent your country didn't win, that is all.

Yes, but it is not trolling neither flamebait, just opinion. Also, everyone is being nice to each other, so, be cool  ok? No need to ban anyone, specially me.

Please...

I'm not going to ban you for having an opinion. However, I will say if you ACTUALLY believe we'll have nuclear war from her. Then either you do not know the extent of the presidents actual power or you're just wrong



spurgeonryan said:
This is the first time I have ever noticed news media saying a president has won a whole week before it has even happened. Amazing Technology we have these days.

Actually this isn't the first time... 

Although not a week before though lol.  Basically, here in the United States, you can make a judgement call by looking a polls on the state/county level and then since we have an electoral college system, you can add up the points and see how Trump get to 270.  Also early voting has begun so you have actually live data.  Based on who many registered voters there are you can  look at the avalible paths to victory (as a comobnation of states), combine that with recent polling and extrapolate from previous turnouts.  its not a dificult concept.  This reminds me of the 2012 election.  Just before we had similar data and Obama was projected to be the most likely to win.  It panned out exactly as the pollsters predicted because they have imporved their research to the point that they are getting mroe and more confortable with their predictions.  Nate Silver is the one who most recently vindicated proper data based polling aggregation as a means of making solid probablicistic predictions. 



COKTOE said:
WagnerPaiva said:

The new model of Russia´s intercontinental nuclear missile. It can leven down a area as big as the state of Texas and it travels at 5000MPH, also, it can reach any spot in the planet with pinpoint accuracy.

I am very sure that America as nukes that are even deadlier than this one by the way. Nuclear War has no winners.

No fucking way. The biggest nuke ever tested, the tsar bomba, couldn't do that. Not even close. Source? Cause I would love to see a how many megatons this thing is purported to have. There is no theoretical limit to how big a single blast could be, but there are logistical problems, as well as a general lack of sanity and reason.

The Tsar Bomb is very old news.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/us-news/2016/10/29/russia-unveils-satan-2-missile-reportedly-wipe-texas-speed-past-us-missile-defense-systems

Here is a report from Hillary´s favorite outlet, CNN

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/26/europe/russia-nuclear-missile-satan-2/

(CNN)A Russian missile design company has unveiled the first image of a new weapon in Russia's arsenal: the Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile, nicknamed "Satan 2."

The RS-28 Sarmat rocket "is capable of wiping out parts of the earth the size of Texas or France," Russian state news outlet Sputnik reported in May.
This is a explanation of how the thing works:

The RS-28 Sarmat[2] (Russian: РС-28 Сармат; NATO reporting nameSS-X-30 Satan 2), is a Russian liquid-fueledMIRV-equipped, super-heavy thermonuclear armed intercontinental ballistic missile in development by the Makeyev Rocket Design Bureau[2] from 2009,[3]intended to replace the previous R-36 missile. Its large payload would allow for up to 10 heavy warheads or 15 lighter ones, and/or a combination of warheads and massive amounts of countermeasures designed to defeat anti-missile systems;[4][5] it was heralded by the Russian military as a response to the U.S. Prompt Global Strike.[6]

In February 2014, a Russian military official announced the Sarmat was expected to be ready for deployment around 2020.[7] In May that year another official source suggested that the program was being accelerated and that it would, in his opinion, constitute up to 100 percent of Russia's fixed land-based nuclear arsenal by 2021.[6][8] At the end of June 2015, it was reported that the production schedule for the first prototype of the Sarmat was slipping.[9][10] The RS-28 Sarmat is expected to become operational in 2016.[11]

On 10 August 2016, Russia successfully tested the RS-28's first-stage engine named PDU-99 "ПДУ-99".[12] The first image of this new missile was declassified and unveiled in October 2016.[13]



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