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Cobretti2 on 31 October 2016
setsunatenshi said:
Cobretti2 said:

who said that? didn't most people only say that thinking it would when docked? i.e. people were hoping for the dock to have supplimantary power.

holy shit, where have you been these past few months? especially around E3 when the rumors went to overdrive...

there have been plenty of wild claims made, one day we should dig those old posts and have a proper laugh :D

tag me when you do. 

i'm still hoping Nintendo has some common sense and release that supplimantary unit.  SImilar to how those alienware laptops can run an external nvidia graphics box as clearly the docking station from what we seen will be a shell for tv output and external charger.

Sure the switch will keep Nintendo only gamers happy but a device without 3rd party support will die quickly. 



 

 

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daredevil.shark on 31 October 2016
DonFerrari said:
So you believe that developers will release unoptimized codes for PS4 and X1 but would go overoptimize for Switch? And considering WiiU is already over 1Gb of OS I see little reason to not think Switch will be even more...

And just a not, PS4Pro have an extra 1Gb for OS, and will probably release more than 6Gb for games (because of textures and other needs for the 4k and checkerboard).

The system haven't release and we are already finding excuses to try and make it seems better than it's?

It's developers fault. 😛😛😛



Conina on 31 October 2016
Cobretti2 said:
setsunatenshi said:

holy shit, where have you been these past few months? especially around E3 when the rumors went to overdrive...

there have been plenty of wild claims made, one day we should dig those old posts and have a proper laugh :D

tag me when you do. 

i'm still hoping Nintendo has some common sense and release that supplimantary unit.  SImilar to how those alienware laptops can run an external nvidia graphics box as clearly the docking station from what we seen will be a shell for tv output and external charger.

Sure the switch will keep Nintendo only gamers happy but a device without 3rd party support will die quickly. 

So how much would you be willing to pay for such an optional addition?



Ck1x on 31 October 2016
mutantsushi said:
Ck1x said:
There are plenty of desktop gpu's out there that are 1080p cards with only 2 GB for vram

And those GPUs are paired with CPUs with access to 4-8GB of DDR RAM.  Such systems are pretty equivalent to Sony's set up on PS4.
A system with only 4 GB total RAM is a very far cry from that, don't kid yourself.  
Now, for Nintendo style games, maybe that's OK.  If people expect AAA 3rd party ports seen on MS/Sony/PC they will be disappointed.

No one was talking about system RAM we are discussing vRAM that the GPU's have access to for rendering graphics. People are focused on the sheer amount and whether it can do 1080p or not, when they should be only concerned with bandwidth at this point. Talking about system RAM is kind of pointless because we know that the Switch is games focused first and won't have a bloated OS to struggle through!



vivster on 31 October 2016
Cobretti2 said:
setsunatenshi said:

holy shit, where have you been these past few months? especially around E3 when the rumors went to overdrive...

there have been plenty of wild claims made, one day we should dig those old posts and have a proper laugh :D

tag me when you do. 

i'm still hoping Nintendo has some common sense and release that supplimantary unit.  SImilar to how those alienware laptops can run an external nvidia graphics box as clearly the docking station from what we seen will be a shell for tv output and external charger.

Sure the switch will keep Nintendo only gamers happy but a device without 3rd party support will die quickly. 

That would just double the price for added complexity and barely any gain. What they actually should do it is release a Pro version of the console a bit later but without the forced forward compatibility like Sony does. That way devs can choose for which console to release and if they want to just port their demanding games on the stronger version.



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Conina on 31 October 2016
Ck1x said:
mutantsushi said:

And those GPUs are paired with CPUs with access to 4-8GB of DDR RAM.  Such systems are pretty equivalent to Sony's set up on PS4.
A system with only 4 GB total RAM is a very far cry from that, don't kid yourself.  
Now, for Nintendo style games, maybe that's OK.  If people expect AAA 3rd party ports seen on MS/Sony/PC they will be disappointed.

No one was talking about system RAM we are discussing vRAM that the GPU's have access to for rendering graphics. People are focused on the sheer amount and whether it can do 1080p or not, when they should be only concerned with bandwidth at this point. Talking about system RAM is kind of pointless because we know that the Switch is games focused first and won't have a bloated OS to struggle through!

Games don't only render graphics! They need additional RAM for all other calculations besides the graphic processing and output. Why do you think PC games have minimal and recommended specs for RAM and VRAM?

With your simple thinking, the minimal RAM to run Windows (1 GB for Windows 7) paired with a graphic card should be more than enough.

It is really annoying when some people enter these discussions without knowing even the basics how a computer/console works.



vivster on 31 October 2016
Ck1x said:
mutantsushi said:

And those GPUs are paired with CPUs with access to 4-8GB of DDR RAM.  Such systems are pretty equivalent to Sony's set up on PS4.
A system with only 4 GB total RAM is a very far cry from that, don't kid yourself.  
Now, for Nintendo style games, maybe that's OK.  If people expect AAA 3rd party ports seen on MS/Sony/PC they will be disappointed.

No one was talking about system RAM we are discussing vRAM that the GPU's have access to for rendering graphics. People are focused on the sheer amount and whether it can do 1080p or not, when they should be only concerned with bandwidth at this point. Talking about system RAM is kind of pointless because we know that the Switch is games focused first and won't have a bloated OS to struggle through!

But what would the Switch even use that bandwidth for? Certainly not for 720p games. Given the power of the rest of the system I'd say the Switch would be fine with even half of the bandwidth of the X1.

You can never have enough of RAM though. 4gb is quite limited when it's shared between CPU and GPU. More RAm will make gaming experiences more seemles because it doesn't have to load from the flash so often.



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DonFerrari on 31 October 2016
daredevil.shark said:
DonFerrari said:
So you believe that developers will release unoptimized codes for PS4 and X1 but would go overoptimize for Switch? And considering WiiU is already over 1Gb of OS I see little reason to not think Switch will be even more...

And just a not, PS4Pro have an extra 1Gb for OS, and will probably release more than 6Gb for games (because of textures and other needs for the 4k and checkerboard).

The system haven't release and we are already finding excuses to try and make it seems better than it's?

It's developers fault. 😛😛😛

We also have to remember Nvidia RAM is better than AMD RAM (I know they aren't the manufacturers of RAM) =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Mr.GameCrazy on 31 October 2016
DonFerrari said:
daredevil.shark said:

It's developers fault. 😛😛😛

We also have to remember Nvidia RAM is better than AMD RAM (I know they aren't the manufacturers of RAM) =p

Better as in faster?



DonFerrari on 31 October 2016
Mr.GameCrazy said:
DonFerrari said:

We also have to remember Nvidia RAM is better than AMD RAM (I know they aren't the manufacturers of RAM) =p

Better as in faster?

Nope... better in "my flops are better than your flops"



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."