Supersampling/anti-aliasing are at the important end of 'pointless effects'. A higher resolution still trumps it though. More generally, have you ever played a PC game on medium settings and preferred it to ultra high?

Yes, the Development Edution :)

In your post you say framerate and resolution are more important than any other effect, that isn't right at all,  my pc right now could play games at 16k resolution at 120fps providing I had the draw distance of gpolice from the psone (about 2meters in front of your ship)  of course no one in their right mind would take that over a 1080/60 game which is functional as a game?  Surely? 

Your speaking of 16k resolution and 120fps, is like the audiophile argument positing 24 bit 192 khz audio as superior to 16 bit 44.1 khz. It's a falsehood based on an erroneous premise, that higher numbers always equal better performance. It really comes down to what the human eye or ear can perceive.

Regarding graphics, my subjective opinion in order of priority:

1) high frame rate, preferably locked over variable/dynamic

2) high resolution

3) texture detail, number of triangles, anisotropic filtering, anti-aliasing

4) wankathon effects e.g. lighting, shadows 

Deminishing returns.

Even 4k is pushing it I think.

I know someone will post that damn picture that shows "worth it or not" + "distance from tv" + "screen size".

Where "worth it" actually means, the human eye is able to tell its better or not.

Most people are fine with 1080p.

Its also why I think the scorpio wont have as big a effect as most xbox users seem to think.

PS4pro with its checkerboard rendering technique is pretty close to real 4k, and honestly at this point jaggies arnt a issue.

Price differnce between the PS4pro & Scorpio will be a much more important matter for most consumers.

You're right we probably won't see games run at a native 1530p (though it wouldn't be the weirdest we've seen this gen :p), but the un-rounded version provides a exact 1:2 scaling of 4k. It's the lowest scaling you can reasonably use to produce a checkboard 4k image (since 2 out ever 4 pixels are filled, hence the checkerbord name), so i wouldn't be surprised to see it used for that on occasion.

While you're totally right that people often have less-than-honest reasons to involve themselves in a discussion, it's ultimately still rooting in an interesting to discuss and participate (far be it sometimes a misguided interested :p). Such posts are going to happen regardless, so it's better to simply address the points made than question motive. You're post didn't cause any problems here, i was just pointing out that it (without the context you offer here) does often lead to drama.

Anyway, i thank you for explaining your post :)

Xbox one doesn't have 218gbps of ram bandwith it has 170.3 gbps.

eSRAM has 102gbps and the ddr3 ram has 68.3 gbps

What I am saying to you is there is no point in having the upper 2 on this list if the 3rd is just completely ignored though, you can have a 4k game running at 60fps but with starfox esque graphics from the SNES as the number of triangles and texture detail are down on the priorities, for a game to look its best imo you always need a smooth balance of all of the above, I would equally think that a game with perfect looking textures and AA would look completely wrong without correct lighting and shadows to it, would ruin the whole effect of what is being displayed.

I would see your view being equal to someone who suggests the only thing which matters about a painting is the canvas which is used being of a certain size and quality, regardless of if a child were to use crayons to scribble on it, would still be a fine painting because of it's size and image quality.

The question is how much devs would bother to make a 4K native version.

oooh okay, seems MS was taking part in some technical trickery to claim the higher bandwidth. Noted.