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Asedebck said:
Captain_Yuri said:
"The Tegra X1 has a high energy consumption so isnt ideal for mobile usage."

Pixel C uses Tegra X1. X1 is also an older arch than the one that Nvidia will be using for the NS.

Kool Story Bro

 

1. The x1 in the pixel is clocked down and alot less powerfull.

Benchmark comparison:

T-Rex 1080p Offscreen

Nvidia Shield Console (full potential): 118 FPS

Pixel C: 85 FPS

Source: https://gfxbench.com

 

One qoute:

"When Nvidia announced the Tegra X1, it talked up the efficiency of the chip, lauding the process improvements and new GPU tweaks mentioned above. But how efficient is it? We were told that Tegra X1 hits peak power consumption of 10 watts when rendering an Unreal Engine 4 demo. That’s certainly impressive when you consider the Xbox needs 100 watts to do the same thing. However, 10 watts is still way too much for a tablet—most tablet processors consume maybe half that at the very top end."

Source: http://www.greenbot.com/article/2879437/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nvidias-new-tegra-x1-chip.html

 

For comparison: The a10Fusion consumes 4,5 Watt at maximum clock speed.

Yes but again, the X1 is Maxwell where as the one for NS is Pascal... The performance/watt gains are massive in comparison if we look at the GPUs that are currently avaliable.

Yea the A10 Fusion consumes less watts but ipads/iphones and etc also have more things to consume that battery. Such as cameras, better screen, higher resolution, etc. The Switch is Rumored to run at 720p and the benchmarks you stated were running at 1080p. So even if the Tegra is downclocked, the lower resolution will increase its performance... Also not to mention that the NS will not have most of the things that ipads/iphones do that would lower its battery.



             

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It'll certainly sell more than the WiiU in my opinion, but everything else is up in the air, it could sell just 30 million, it could sell 90 million, who knows?



I have a prediction: it will have amazing sales, like, PS4 like sales, and it will reach 40 million in 3 years, and boring people will sale "it is a failure cause it should have 3DS + WiiU sales cause it is both and bla bla bla".
But Nintendo will get very strong with the profits.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

Lrdfancypants said:
It probably won't happen but it would be funny if the Switch turned out to be more powerful than x1 or ps4. The Internet would melt.

It also would be awesome it the Switch turned out to bring peace to the Middle East :) 



Well I will give the OP props for actually doing some research. It isn't as powerful as a PS4, I don't think anyone would seriously expect that though, it's a tablet form factor, if it was as powerful as a PS4 its battery life would be 15-20 minutes and/or you'd be danger of melting the entire machine's inside.

But good for you for tracking down actual benchmarks, they might be illuminating for some people, though a tablet which is 1/3 a PS4/XB1 is nothing to scoff at for purposes of portability.

I think my main dissapointment with the concept is there's no real big extra power in the dock. That seems to me like an oppurtunity missed, something 1/3 an XBox One on the go, but could "power up" to equal to XBox One at home would've been good for me, though admittedly more expensive.

One thing I should point out though is you got the Nvidia Shield console price wrong. It's $199.99 without a HDD, and that price is from over a year ago, meaning it probably could be sold cheaper for now if Nvidia really wanted to.

So lets say $150 for the hardware + $50 for a 6-inch 720p screen + $20 for your dock. Yeah $250 is not entirely out of the question, though it could be $299.99.



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Enlighten me what's the specs? What's the price? What's the launch line up? Oh waitch you don't know but here you are presenting your guesses like it's facts. I'll give you bit off info. Name one video game playing device that's hadone pokémon that has failed? And I mean pokémon mainline? You suddenly think no-one wants pokémon anymore or monster hunter etc this thing will go beast mode in Japan.



jonathanalis said:
1-Half xbox one is good enough for the kind of games they want to put on switch, i think. I think they are not competing with ps4 and xbox. more and more people are start playing on tablets, and a tablet that have mario kart, splatoon, zelda could be more attractive than others.
2-All third parties that are going to mobile can be on switch, and mobile is growing, receiving more and more support from thirdies. I think it is far more better than wii U third party support. (ok, not the ideal, maybe you have a point)
3-Well, nintendo may not sell at loss. Maybe NVIDIA should manage to sell the chips at loss to nintendo. They want to take a part of home console market that is all dominated by AMD. They need switch to succeed.

But im more worried if switch will have handheld games and a good battery life... If not, it can fail.

Don't see the battery life being to good.



"Say what you want about Americans but we understand Capitalism.You buy yourself a product and you Get What You Pay For."  

- Max Payne 3

I'm hoping it won't fail because I need my fix on Mario, SSB, and Legend of Zelda Games.

I think it's a little early to tell how well it'll do though



Nogamez said:
Enlighten me what's the specs? What's the price? What's the launch line up? Oh waitch you don't know but here you are presenting your guesses like it's facts. I'll give you bit off info. Name one video game playing device that's hadone pokémon that has failed? And I mean pokémon mainline? You suddenly think no-one wants pokémon anymore or monster hunter etc this thing will go beast mode in Japan.

Monster Hunter was on the Wii U too, no? Did I miss the Pokemon Switch announcement?



jonathanalis said:
1-Half xbox one is good enough for the kind of games they want to put on switch, i think. I think they are not competing with ps4 and xbox. more and more people are start playing on tablets, and a tablet that have mario kart, splatoon, zelda could be more attractive than others.

3-Well, nintendo may not sell at loss. Maybe NVIDIA should manage to sell the chips at loss to nintendo. They want to take a part of home console market that is all dominated by AMD. They need switch to succeed.

 

1. Yes I see your points and that basically one of the biggest plusses i see with the switch. people that plan on getting an ipad might get the switch instead IF it can do the same like an ipad + play nintendo games. BUT Im not sure nintendo can achieve that for several reasons:

1.1 Apple has ALOT expierence in the tablet buisness. They are making tablets scince 6 years. Their OS is very, very good and the iPad is very productive. Also Apple has alot more money and manpower that is working on their OS in infrastructure. Nintendo will most likely not beeing able to compete and they wont use android. its not that easy to develop an OS that just works fluid. Even the Ps4´s OS/Menu is ALOT more buggy and laggy compared to iOS on an way less powerfull iPad

1.2 Marketing/image: Nintendo still have a very childish marketing. Apple/Samsungs marketing is buisness, not gaming. Same reasons many people dont want to get those acer predator gaming notebooks. Its just not goot image to get a "gaming.toy" for many people.

1.3 Tablets are declining. The great days are over. Look here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/269915/global-apple-ipad-sales-since-q3-2010/

And Appe is the big player in the tablet marketing. They sell 50mio ipads yearly at the moment. Just to sell 20% of that (10mio/year) will be very hard for nintendo and apples/tablets sales in general are going lower and lower.

1.4 Nintendo ALSO NEED to have all those tablet features (touch screen, good web browser, youtube app, facebook app, twitter app, snapchat, instagram, youtube and much more). It already wont have a camera, so that will already be a disadvantage if they want the direct competition with apple.

 

All gaming tablets yet (like Nvidia Shield) failed horrible.